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#1 Feb 24 2015 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
I have some intermittent problems with the lucy EQ item collector; mostly that it does not seem to collect items -- however, I can usually get it working by deleting the db and starting it again.

My concern is that it sometimes truncates item names. One in particular is the 'Stoneoak Tower Shield' [94936]. If you look at the history on this item, the whacked out stats over the past year are probably caused by me when I upload. I see that I am not the only one that truncates names, there is also 'Dresovir Shard, Ro's Fiery Tower' [98985]. Not only are the names truncated, but that stats seem to get scrambled -- until someone else updates the item and corrects the names/stats back to normal. When I scan the list of items, most look fine/normal. Just the 'Stoneoak Tower Shield' usually gets scrambled to 'neok Tower Shield' or 'ok Tower Shield' (along with the stats). Any suggestions to resolve? Running the latest Wincp and item updater.
#2 Feb 24 2015 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
I had a long drawn out response but since I directed away from the page it was lost. suffice to say I will not be renewing my premium sub at the full asking price until Item collector and its ability to accurately update (ALL my characters not just some alts ) is fixed. IC was the main reason I paid for the premium membership. Sure the other content is useful but so is Google and Google is (still) free.
I challenge ZAM to offer a bottom tier membership that doesn't include the use of item collector and offer it at a price of 19.99...then I will be able to get my money's worth without having to be frustrated with IC. Thanks for listening to my two cents worth.

Edited, Feb 24th 2015 3:43pm by meadal
#3 Feb 24 2015 at 9:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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I seem to recall being told that you're better off reporting this on the Cross Site Troubleshooting & Hardware forum.

That said, I've seen the oddly truncated entries, too, but never on anything that I submit. Tear of Alaris seems to mess up quite frequently.

I personally am noticing odd behavior from Lucy right now. It seems to be ignoring both drops and vendor items (which is usually the bulk of my submissions). Currently, it only updates items in my inventory when I change zones and when I look at stuff in the Marketplace. I figured I would wait a few days and see if Lucy cleared up. But since this is posted here, I thought I would pile on. ;-)

Also, was there a deliberate action taken to remove the Favor benefit entries from Zam? (Do a search on "benefit" to see the ones that have been left behind.) I had boosted my Item DB leaderboard ranking by reporting a number of those. It's fine if they were taken out intentionally, but it seems to have been applied incompletely. Of course, if it's a bug, consider this a bug report. :-)

Edited, Feb 24th 2015 11:01pm by Oxgoad
#4 Feb 25 2015 at 12:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Baron von Oxgoad wrote:
You're better off reporting this on the Cross Site Troubleshooting & Hardware Feedback forum.
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#5 Feb 25 2015 at 2:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've always had problems searching for benefits and last several years getting them updated. Since the item type = !HS bug, it's been difficult.

Yther Ore.
#6 Feb 25 2015 at 3:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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Btw Oxgoad, where is the Lucy submission rankings listed at? Just want to take a look at my ranking.

EDIT: Also, most of the personal tribute items I have listed on the wiki page at https://everquest.allakhazam.com/wiki/EQ:Tribute work.

And I think Feedback is more trustworthy, as a developer will see it and most likely mention it to the person working on Lucy. I think the other forum is where the Lucy expert goes more of the time, is why it may have been suggested. And trustworthy in case the Lucy expert has changed.

Yther Ore.

Edited, Feb 25th 2015 5:30am by Yther
#7 Feb 25 2015 at 6:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yther, you are most definitely on the all-time rankings: http://lucy.allakhazam.com/itemdbstats.html.

I don't see anything recent, though. Are you still using Lucy?

Through your Tribute wiki page, it does look like all the tribute benefits still have listings here on Zam. I think the issue is that at some point EverQuest became inconsistent in its nomenclature. For example, Countenance of Ardor II Tier 1 is listed as "Countenance of Ardor II 1 Benefit" but the original Countenance of Ardor Tier 1 is listed as "Benefit: Charisma Cap 02." I was searching on the wrong keywords, hence my confusion. Thanks for reminding me about the Tribute page! Smiley: grin

Edited, Feb 25th 2015 8:56pm by Oxgoad
#8 Feb 25 2015 at 7:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Last time I ran it for sure, was when the hotzones changed to see if I could get any of the augs. Unfortunately, Lucy was taking uploads when I on, and by the time I played again, they were all already in there. So it's probably 2 yrs since I added anything or more.

Yea, the strange names they pick for stuff is annoying sometimes. Alot of the Guild Tribute are the same name as the Personal Tribute (on the Benefit side), but names on the Guild Tribute window are different also. Alot of the newer ones I had to get the ID from another program that didn't scroll by so fast so I could write them down.

Thanks for the link. Didn't it used to be on the Lucy home page? I couldn't find it when I looked the other day. EDIT: Just bad with acronyms, thought it was the Damage Bonus table, and I just linked it the other day for Dmg Bonus.

EDIT 2: Nice additions to the Items Containers 10+ slots page.

Yther Ore.

Edited, Feb 25th 2015 8:48pm by Yther

Edited, Feb 25th 2015 8:50pm by Yther
#9 Feb 25 2015 at 8:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, I almost never catch new items, but once in a blue moon I get lucky, like with the Bags of Silver Tokens and Bag of Gold Tokens this month. Updated items I catch with more frequency due to my obsessive detail-oriented nature.

And thanks for the compliment about my addition to the 10+ Slot Containers page! I was nearly stultified after adding all those containers, but it was worth it.
#10 Feb 26 2015 at 9:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thank you Baron for the wtf exercise!
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#11 Feb 26 2015 at 10:43 AM Rating: Excellent
Thanks folks. I did see later after posting that there were other more suitable forums. Had a chance to peruse the posts (seems like my particular bug is hard to reproduce) and will carry on. I think it's client side though (be it the collector or something else) since I am seeing the truncated name on the itemcol window.
#12 Feb 26 2015 at 2:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thank you Baron for the wtf exercise!


You're welcome. I have to utilize those 11th grade English class words every once in a while to justify having learned them in the first place. Smiley: smile

And sorry for hijacking the thread Jestar. Hopefully one of the devs can give you some insight.
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