Everquest MOD of Disrespect!!!!Follow

I thought it was an odd message, kind of trying to be cheeky/cute while firm, but coming out more confusing/pointless.

I would have said:

"We have noted a higher than usual need for Customer service intervention in regards to raid loot distribution. We believe this difficulty is arising from specific players and request they be more careful how they are looting. You have been warned".

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But I would have made all cool boss loot nodrop years ago... but full loot table (go kill in Scarlet Desert to see what this looks like in EQ) on a kill. Tradable stuff shouldn't be the coolest... it can be almost as good. OR (just to contradict myself) make 95% of stuff attunable.

For raids... I would have given each participating character an independent loot chance (warhammer did a version of this on their public quests but slotted you based on your fellow questers... I would do it character-wise) based on their #of times completing said encounter. Short version... your % chance of getting the rarest drop goes up incrementally each time you do the encounter until you are basically handed it.

He is Trolling.

They used CS to circumvent DKP.
They used CS because they don't pay attention to what they loot.

QQ more.

Isn't that what you guys say to us lowly groupers?

I already said this on the Sony forum thread about it, but will say it again anyway. I tried to /petition when I first came back from EQ2 and won the loot of a head item, but there was a shoulder item on the corpse too, that looked like a head, that I accidentally looted. I didn't loot the head, and gave it to the next person since I already screwed up the shoulder loot. The response was I would have to marked as a ninja-looter and would probably be banned if suspected of it again. So I declined them fixing it to keep my status clean, as I had seen several people wrongfully banned without any infractions and thought even having one, would make it nearly impossible to get unbanned if it accidentally happened to me.

They must not be doing this any more, or people don't care, and they're not enforcing the multiple-strikes thing in order for them to make such a MOTD. Despite all that, and the MOTD, I don't really care, either. I think the MOTD could of been worded better, but I took it as they were trying to be funny, as previously said.

EDIT: Like Customer Service in not in the habit of fixing issues that YOU CAUSED REPEATEDLY!

Yther Ore.

Edited, Sep 12th 2013 11:40am by Yther

That's how I took it as well. Just assumed that for some reason they've been getting a lot of petitions from people complaining that they misslooted, or someone looted their drop, etc, and they're tired of getting them. At the end of the day, EQ is a social game. Deal with such things socially. If you're with a group of people raiding and you trust them, and someone makes a mistake, well... they made a mistake. You move on. If the same someone consistently "accidentally" loots something they're not supposed to, you don't invite them to raid anymore. There is pretty close to zero reason to involve the CS on this. The raid tool has long since eliminated the problem of someone outside your own raid ninjalooting items (ok, mostly), so barring an actual game bug occurring, I'm not sure what people expect CS to do here.



Trade to/from only people that were in the raid? That might actually work. Would be a bear to program into the game at this point though. And again, you're "fixing" a problem that isn't a game design or bug issue. What's the old saying? The more you idiot proof the world, the more the world will produce idiots? I guarantee you that they'll still get petitions from people who picked up a piece of loot intending to give it to some other player, but then he logged, or crashed, or they forgot to give it to him in the 2 hour window, and pretty please let us trade it now...? Or "so and so won the roll for an uber drop and promised to sell it to me for X pp, but he gave it to someone else instead. Wah!!!".


I got a firm "we're putting our foot down on this silliness" message from that motd. Nothing wrong with that at all IMO.

Good point/suggestion.

Since those are tradable items, then that does fall squarely in the social solutions arena.

Yeah, we get it. It's just that no one else here is especially riled up about it.

I'm reminded of an old saying by this thread. "You can't design anything foolproof because fools are so ingeniously stupid". This problem of looting will always exist. Players are human and humans are not perfect.

Edited, Sep 13th 2013 9:54am by KEC

Lol people just get mad about something that no one cares about.... the old saying "You can't please everyone." really holds true.

anyone else find it ironic that he wants them to "Talk to me with respect." but writes an insult laden post?

I support the Customer Service Rep's for they have a hellish job dealing with other silly crap going on in game. They are not there to hold your hand while looting, tell your raid leader to slow the hell down and kill one less target per raid evening and you won't be pushed for time to loot. Blame your loot problem on the raid leader's rushing a heard of kitten's thru each event that produces *%#$ ups. I know I was in a High End Raid Guild, 5 days a week 6 hours a night and it is a dog eat dog cycle Loot or Loose, off to next target .... loot wrong stuff o well. Remember, don't bit the hand that feed's ya.... CSR / GM's can make your day a nightmare..... LoL !