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#1 Sep 28 2012 at 5:51 PM Rating: Good
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Hey all! Long time no see :)

Contemplating returning to EQ >again< (LOL, this is my 8th or 9th break!), and was debating just turning on one account, and leaving the other two as F2P/Silver. However, I see that there is a limit on chars/account, and storage. What I'm trying to find out is:

1 - For the 4 chars/account limit, how do I know which 4 will be allowed to log in? Can I do anything to determine which 4?
2 - I know inventory bags are limited to 4, but what about the bank? (other than shared slots, I know I won't have access to those). Will each char still have access to 24 bank bags?

Oh yeah, one more:

3 - What constitutes "Prestige" items? I just have bazaar gear, for the most part, with some dream mote-purchased items. Will those likely be "Prestige"?

Thanks for any help you can offer :)

Tat

LOL - thought of another one:

4 - Thinking of rolling my own guild, so that I'll be the GL. How many bank slots for a guild bank? And can Silver account chars access the guild bank?

Edited, Sep 28th 2012 7:53pm by tatankaseventh
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#2 Sep 28 2012 at 7:33 PM Rating: Good
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Try this...
http://www.everquest.com/free/
It should answer your questions.
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#3 Sep 28 2012 at 7:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Had already seen that page. Pretty sure none of my questions are answered on that page.
#4 Sep 28 2012 at 9:38 PM Rating: Excellent


1 - I believe it's the four most recently logged in characters. So prior to logging in, I don't think you can determine that, having been away since before the transition.

2- Yes, you have 24 bank slots. You just don't have a shared bank.

3- Essentially, everything good is prestige. I think the tier 1/2 HoT items aren't prestige (Terror Infused armor, Abstruse armor, Recondite armor, 'of Fearful Reverie', and 'of the Vagarious Servant' items) and VoA items (Rustic and Formal armor, for example) aren't prestige but basically everything outside of that is prestige. Also, every aug you have that isn't a hotzone aug, is prestige by default and will make your armor change color (in the slot on your inventory screen) to tell you that. If I remember right, yellow means the base armor piece is prestige so you get no benefit from it. Purple means an aug in the armor is prestige but the base armor isn't so you get the benefit/stats from the base armor but not the aug. So some of your bazaar gear could be prestige. Only one way to find out for sure though....(well, two ways. You could look up your gear here but you probably don't remember everything your characters were wearing so....one way to find out for sure :) ).

4 - Silver accounts can access the guild bank as long as they're granted the permissions to (via the guild management window).
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#5 Sep 30 2012 at 4:09 PM Rating: Decent
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If your account is grandfathered (as in those toons where made prior to F2P starting) I think you will be able to play all of them.
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Any toon made before F2P is available. That was mentioned in another thread so fronglo is correct.
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#7 Sep 30 2012 at 11:31 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks, all!

Got the same info from the EQ boards, so as soon as I get back home, I'll get everything going again!

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#8 Oct 11 2012 at 6:17 AM Rating: Good
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If I may, I'd like to tag along on this thread and ask another question in the same vein.

Are Silver accounts viable at the level cap? With the item/spell quality limits as well as plat and 1000 aa limits, can you effectively group and or raid at the level cap? As I recall, EQ was never "solo friendly" but for a handful of classes and honestly I'm in the camp that MMO's are meant to be grouped within, but are there dungeons etc that are doable within the Silver account envelope?

I have an EQ2 account as well and Silver there is doable IF you're willing to drop a few bucks for item/spell unlocks and find a decent guild that has gold members willing to assist the silvers in the micromanagement side of the game (plat limit, mailing items etc)

Shorter version is, is the game generally FTP 1-94 and Gold level is basically required for 95+?
#9 Oct 11 2012 at 8:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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kaedian66 wrote:
Are Silver accounts viable at the level cap? With the item/spell quality limits as well as plat and 1000 aa limits, can you effectively group and or raid at the level cap?


I highly doubt that you could raid anything near current content in Silver or F2P because of gear and aug restrictions not to mention the AA limits etc.

As for grouping if you are a melee/tank class almost all decent augs especially Ac augs are Gold account status only. While silver limits the castors to Rk 1 spells only which really hurts after lvl 85 imo.

Good luck.
#10 Oct 11 2012 at 9:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the info. You've saved me a chunk of time and effort :) Its amazing how different the FTP models are from game to game even amongst games by the same developer.
#11 Oct 11 2012 at 10:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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Your welcome,

The link supplied in the second post on this thread (by @alwayslost) has more details on the differences and limitations between F2P,Silver and Gold account status..

Good luck and enjoy.
#12 Nov 03 2012 at 11:28 AM Rating: Good
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Hey all, just thought I would post some updates to what I've learned since my return a few weeks ago.....

I finally turned on Gold membership on one of my accounts the other day. It's nice to have a shared bank again!

Some things of note, for those who've been gone a while:

- Aug distillers have been slashed in price by about 90%!! So moving augs when you upgrade gear as you level is now a very minor consideration
- Pretty much ALL spells up to about 80-90 are now available in the PoK library, with VERY few exceptions. On my necro, I had to go to Blightfire for one spell (vendor), and another (Kunark quest spell) is not in PoK.
- For Prestige items, none of my chars had any primary equipment which was prestige (all defiant/T1 tradables from the newer expacs). I did have some Prestige augs, and this is the basic pattern: All DoN augs (bought with crystals) appear to be Prestige. Also, zone drop augs which are not "hot zone" related, or defiant, appear to be Prestige. However, long quest augs (Dagmire, etc) are NOT Prestige.

Now regarding some other info. If you just take the useful AA's at each level, you can probably get to the lower 70s before you run into the 1000 AA limit. My Necro returned at 58 with 196 AAs, and is now 63 with 473 AAs. I'm taking every AA worth having, and skipping the tradeskill/stat related ones.

However, I noticed in the Station shop the other night, that there are some things that can be bought with SC to alleviate some of the Silver restrictions:
For 250 SC (or 83 cents, if you get triple SC), you can raise the AA cap on one char by 100.
For 250 SC, you can raise the base inventory slot cap for a char (so 1000 SC gets you back to 10 inventory slots)
For 750 SC, you can remove the rank 2 spell restriction for a char (rank 3 still not allowed)

So if you have just one higher level char you want to play on an account, you can do some creative things with SC, and remove most of the inconvenient caps.
The only really bad one left is the "no shared bank". Of course, if you put your toons in a guild, then you can just use the guild bank to get around that.

Hope this helps!

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#13 Nov 03 2012 at 1:50 PM Rating: Decent
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tatankaseventh wrote:

The only really bad one left is the "no shared bank". Of course, if you put your toons in a guild, then you can just use the guild bank to get around that.
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I Have always been gold so this is what I have heard from silver accounts. Not in stone and I could be wrong. But they get a house and large crate and use house as bank. only problem no plat exchange that I can see. but make all your toons OWNERS and you have a pretty large bank.
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#14 Nov 03 2012 at 4:55 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I had 3 accounts, so that's how I got around the plat exchange issue (and was able to create a guild with all my toons).

And since it's F2P, everyone can have another account, so that's not really an issue for anyone.

The only issue there's no way around is Heirloom items. With no shared bank, there's no way to move them between chars.

Edited, Nov 3rd 2012 6:56pm by tatankaseventh
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