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#1 Nov 10 2005 at 10:27 AM Rating: Decent
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One of my guildies got ripped off the other day he seeemed to have had all of his money and all of his non no drop items taken from him. I was just wondering how often if at all this happens?
#2 Nov 10 2005 at 10:29 AM Rating: Decent
It happens as often as people share their passwords.
#3 Nov 10 2005 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
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well aside from it's just what he said He hasn't shared his password but then again it is his word but i do trust it.
#4 Nov 10 2005 at 10:36 AM Rating: Decent
alot of people in my guild had that happen about a year ago. what they all shared was that they had given out account info via our forums. forums got hacked, account info stolen. chars where totally stripped.. they even destroyed aug so they could sell items.
The guy was cought and banned but only after all the cash and items he had stolen where transfered over to other several accounts.
Be carefull not only to who you give out info to but also how you do it.

Edited, Thu Nov 10 10:45:37 2005 by BumbiRagnar
#5 Nov 10 2005 at 10:40 AM Rating: Decent
Same thing happend to a guild on my server about a year ago also.

The person responsible took it one step further and killed them all repeatedly to add insult to injury after ripping them off.

Also destroyed all their no-drop gear.

NEVER share your passwords.
#6 Nov 10 2005 at 10:42 AM Rating: Decent
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999 out of 1000 times it's because someone shared their account info somewhere. Actual account hacking just doesn't happen as much as people try to claim.
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Potentially, someone could have used a keystroke logger or something to get his password but that'd still require them to know your username since you don't enter that every time.

Anyway, in five plus years of playing I've never known anyone nor been guilded with anyone who had it happen. So to answer your question "not too often" but there's simple ways to avoid the risk.
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#8 Nov 10 2005 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
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I've never heard of someones EQ account actually being hacked. It is almost always due to people giving out their passwords. Maybe he is embarrased about falling for a scam so he just told you it was hacked.
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#9 Nov 10 2005 at 3:38 PM Rating: Decent
(Love your avatar Xythex.) :)

It is very possible to hack EQ accounts even without folks sharing out passwords, which is of course a very bad idea. Even if someone is your 'best friend', that person may share the password with his/her 'best friend', etc. Also keep in mind that friends usually write down shared passwords or keep them in an easily-found text file on their PC's. Now if a little brother, brother's friend, or somesuch finds that information...oopsie. But aside from the easy ways to steal account information, there are other ways that are not so simple. Brute force password crackers are rare, but they do exist. Just as MQ can be used along with EQ to cheat the game, a very specialized brute force cracker program could be written to attack character account logins. EQ has many safeguards against such, but they do exist. Sometimes even good guessing can reveal a person's password.

I will list some preventive measures--mostly standard good security practices--and encourage others to add to this list.

1. NEVER give your account info to ANYONE, friend or not, unless you are fully prepared to lose every character and item on that account. If you have buff boxes that you want to share, that's one thing, but just be prepared for someone to eventually clean you out or otherwise misuse that account.

2. CHANGE your account info at least every third month or so. This is especially important if you have made the mistake of sharing the info with anyone. Switch passwords at the very least!

3. DO NOT use any part of any of your character's names as a login or password. Hackers start out by trying character names as logins and/or passwords.

4. DO NOT use actual words, misspelled or otherwise, as passwords. In fact, use nothing at all that has any meaning for you or is 'easy to remember'. If it's easy to remember, it's easy to guess. Things like your phone number or your mother's maiden name are surprisingly easy to discover. Use nonsense strings of text AND numbers. For best security, mix in caps and non-caps with numbers and symbols. This defeats 99% of all brute force crackers. Your password should look something like this: 2x45IUz#)

5. If you record your login/password info (which you'd almost have to if it's a nonsense string) put it someplace SAFE, especially if you have a little brother, sister, roommate, son, daughter, nephew, niece, family dog or gerbil that has access to your computer. If it's stored on your PC, put it somewhere besides 'My Documents' and name it something misleading, like "grocery list.doc" If it's on a piece of paper, hide the darn thing well and just put the password on it, not an explanation like "EQ PASSWORD = *erTY239x$"

6. If you ARE hacked, immediately report it and change your login/password information. That's usually shutting the barn doors after the horses get out, but you might as well do it to keep the hacker from doing further mischief. Odds are, your account will be cancelled if it is compromised and you'll have to start everything over. But it is possible with a bit of detective work to track down the hacker simply by finding out who was given all your gear and plat. You may not get anything back, but the hacker will be banned and lose all the gear too. Often times, the hacker will be some sleazy little freak trying to make RL cash off your gear anyway, so you're hitting him where it hurts...in the wallet.

7. Constantly update your antivirus software and spyware scanners. Spybot Search and Destroy combined with Hijack This and Norton Antivirus is my preferred security suite, along with an Nvidia firewall. If you keep these programs updated with the latest patches and definitions, it will be extremely hard for keyloggers and trojans to get installed on your PC. This will not only keep your EQ account information safe, but ALL information that has been entered into your PC.

In the end, I'd have to agree that 90% of all hacked accounts aren't really hacked in the traditional sense, but merely an example of someone being extremely careless with their account information. With a little extra effort though, you can really protect yourself from this sort of theft. Hope this helps. :)
#10 Nov 10 2005 at 5:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Usually if hacking is involved, it the guilds website that is hacked. Players in guilds sometimes exchange or post passwords there so others can bot them on various flag raids.
#11 Nov 10 2005 at 5:55 PM Rating: Decent
You know I cant help but believe some of this is toons that were ebayed and their original owners are logging in to mess with the account. Then the people are ashamed to admit they yantis'd their account.

Even if you change your password the original owner can get it.
#12 Nov 11 2005 at 6:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Boneheads of Butcherblock got shut down over the weekend, the guild leaders account got hacked and the hacker booted guild and emptied bank. Guild leader couldnt convince sony he was original owner from 3 1/2 years ago due to old cc info so has quit in disgust. This happened on AB. Tip of the day, if you must share account info, do it via email than on your guild forums.
#13 Nov 14 2005 at 7:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Boneheads of Butcherblock got shut down over the weekend, the guild leaders account got hacked and the hacker booted guild and emptied bank. Guild leader couldnt convince sony he was original owner from 3 1/2 years ago due to old cc info so has quit in disgust. This happened on AB. Tip of the day, if you must share account info, do it via email than on your guild forums.


Baloney.

Sorry, I could not resist.

There are quite a few possibilities that get more complicated as the number of people involved increases.

Warchief Maderik's post is fantastic so I will not elaborate but as he mentioned, most "hacks" are people just figuring out your password because it was too easy or sharing of accounts. If your account name is "Tiger" DO NOT make your password "Woods". This may sound obvious but is done quite often. Also, you may have a best friend who you trust with your life but do you his other friends? The ones he thought he could trust?

The above baloney I quoted is a good E Bay/sold account example of a "hack" that is not a hack at all.

Edited, Mon Nov 14 19:40:21 2005 by Reyla
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