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I noticed on my Pally that getting a better shield seems to affect the amount of damage done when Bash is used....was wondering what aspect of the shield influenced the damage dealt. Is it higher AC means more damage? Or is it simply the size of the shield? Anyone know?
I can't claim this as fact, but I have always heard the higher the AC of the shield, the harder the bash.
It's been way too long since I've played a bashing class.
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might give you change so let's see what others have to say.
It's been way too long since I've played a bashing class.
My
might give you change so let's see what others have to say.Never really watched the damage from Bashing playing an SK (No Stuns)I hold off on bashing till spells are being cast for a possible interupt. Do you get enough damage from bashing to make it worth the added possiblity of a spell getting through?
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Never really watched the damage from Bashing playing an SK (No Stuns)I hold off on bashing till spells are being cast for a possible interupt. Do you get enough damage from bashing to make it worth the added possiblity of a spell getting through?
Well if you're fighting melee only mobs, then you should be bashing everytime its available. Yes it can add a bit of extra dps (every little bit helps knights).
I bash whenever possible with my warrior even though I give up my offhand weapon for about 1-2 seconds with a bandolier macro.
The chance to stun a mob for a short time means I take less damage and it greatly increases aggro.
Plus, the offhand doesn't have the same kind of damage bonus as the main hand, so I don't feel like I'm losing too much DPS.
Even though I'm a large race that gets Slam, Bashing with a shield seems to me to stun more often and definately does a lot more damage. To answer the OP, sorry I'm not sure of the exact relationship between the shield and bash damage, but I bet bash skill has a lot to do with it.
Edited, Mon Nov 7 11:51:22 2005 by JoltinJoe
The chance to stun a mob for a short time means I take less damage and it greatly increases aggro.
Plus, the offhand doesn't have the same kind of damage bonus as the main hand, so I don't feel like I'm losing too much DPS.
Even though I'm a large race that gets Slam, Bashing with a shield seems to me to stun more often and definately does a lot more damage. To answer the OP, sorry I'm not sure of the exact relationship between the shield and bash damage, but I bet bash skill has a lot to do with it.
Edited, Mon Nov 7 11:51:22 2005 by JoltinJoe
certianly not proof. But i tested this in burning woods I have the shield I got from the halloween God MM. it is ac 17 my other has ac 25. the halloween shield is way better in every other stat except Cha. The Ac 25 did consistantly more damage than the other. One more reason to carry the bazarr bought shield :( I was trying to justify the 80hp and 80m as a reason to switch the diference in hp and ac make them a wash now the diference in mana and bash damage kinda make this a tough choice)
Edited, Mon Nov 7 12:46:50 2005 by Trablin
Edited, Mon Nov 7 12:46:50 2005 by Trablin
As I recall, linking shield AC to bash damage was one of the changes made way back in the day when shields were slightly revamped to make them more viable.
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
My paladins at 51 and 55 respectively still use Mace of the Fallen crusader and shield. A well researched post from over a year ago on paladins stated that was the best combo until post 54. (I think that I saw it on Paladins of norrath board.) However there is a point when you will do more damage with a 2h weapon vs 1h and bash.
When to bash? Whenever it is available is my usual method. If I am fighting a caster I will usually try to Chain stun and use bash as well. With Winjon I can desist, holy might, bash and cast stun, the next one refreshing in turn. Sometimes even get two bashes in.
When to bash? Whenever it is available is my usual method. If I am fighting a caster I will usually try to Chain stun and use bash as well. With Winjon I can desist, holy might, bash and cast stun, the next one refreshing in turn. Sometimes even get two bashes in.
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I pretty much stick to 1HS and a shield with my Pally. I use bash everytime it is available. Yes, AC does affect bash damage. The high the AC the more damage you have the potential to inflict. If I'm in a group I'll switch to 2HS to keep the skill up but when I'm soloing I stick to 1HS and a shield for bash, unless I'm against a caster mob and then I prefer stuns over bash. My current combo is Blade of Disruption (with the DoN aug that adds a vampire claw proc) and Muramite's Shield. Hope this helps! :)
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As I recall, linking shield AC to bash damage was one of the changes made way back in the day when shields were slightly revamped to make them more viable.
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I remember there being some parses on this back after this happened. I don't recall the actual stats, I don't think it was as simple as going from 26ac on a shield to 27ac giving that much more damage, but there were certain cut-off. The only thing I remember for sure was that it was recommended to have at least 25ac on the sheild. I'm pretty sure this was on the Paladin boards as well, but can't be bothered to try to find it.
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My paladins at 51 and 55 respectively still use Mace of the Fallen crusader and shield.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Thanks Jophiel I may do that for Jonwin. But he is still on Elne's account and with her doing a lot of O game and Civ 4 her comp doesnt have a lot of free time on it.
OH an everyone else who doesn't look at the asylum section here take a gander at Jophiel's new title. <Grin>
OH an everyone else who doesn't look at the asylum section here take a gander at Jophiel's new title. <Grin>
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