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#1 Feb 13 2004 at 11:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Hello all, a few questions if I may?

I've been playing Diablo 2 for about 3 years and like it a lot, EQ certainly seems to be the game for me but I have a few doubts.

1. I don't get to play very often or for very long. Maybe a couple of 2 hour sessions a week. Will this be a problem 'keeping up' in EQ? I'm worried I won't be able to maintain friendships and so wil have to solo virtually all the time?

2. Will my PC manage it? I'm not hot on computers but although it meets the requirements just, (650 clock speed) will it suffer from loads of lag?

3. Will I manage it? I've been reading the Newbie Zone before I found this site, it seems everyone is applying macro's, 2 boxing and generally being experts at both computers and games. I don't even know what 2 boxing is, but if it's using 2 pcs at the same time to play 2 characters at the same time then it's way above me. Why do it? Why not just play a party in Baldurs?

4. It seems the best way to start is the Evolution box set, but I can only find the US version, while I live in the UK. Can I play the US version? Is there an alternative if not? What difference does the US version make?

I've loads of questions but these are just a few. Any help is greatly appreciated because although I may not be to the level of a lot of players, I still think I could have a lot of fun in EQ. (I'm also trying to decide a first character, Beastlord seems to be a good idea. I like to melee, but the pets and a few spells should help if I have to solo)

Thanks very much to all of you, it really is great to see all the help people are willing to give. Hopefully I'll be able to pass on the adivice in due time.

Thanks.

Lance.
#2 Feb 13 2004 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Crikey, can't find an "Add to favourites" button. How will I ever find this thread again later if anyone does reply?

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#3 Feb 13 2004 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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1. I don't get to play very often or for very long. Maybe a couple of 2 hour sessions a week. Will this be a problem 'keeping up' in EQ? I'm worried I won't be able to maintain friendships and so wil have to solo virtually all the time?
There's plenty of zones you can probably find a quick pick-up group in as you progress through your EQ career. You might not make many friends you really get to grow with (even if you find another guy who plays 2 hrs a shot, 3 times a week what's the chances his schedule will match yours?) but you will be able to find people to play with. Still, I'd consider the solo abilities of any class you start, just so you can be productive while you wait on a group.

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2. Will my PC manage it? I'm not hot on computers but although it meets the requirements just, (650 clock speed) will it suffer from loads of lag?
You should be fine in the old world and Kunark. You might lag some on Luclin, but adjusting settings like the clip plane (how far out you can see) will help. I played through PoP on a K6-2 550MHz so it's certainly possible if not optimal.

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3. Will I manage it? I've been reading the Newbie Zone before I found this site, it seems everyone is applying macro's, 2 boxing and generally being experts at both computers and games. I don't even know what 2 boxing is, but if it's using 2 pcs at the same time to play 2 characters at the same time then it's way above me. Why do it? Why not just play a party in Baldurs?
Social macros are just part of the game and easy to do. Instead of always typing out game commands, you put 2-5 of them together on a button and press it. Don't worry about the multi-boxers.. it's not uncommon, but it's not everyone either and most people don't care one way or the other. If anything, they'd prefer you NOT to multi-box as it's splitting your attention.

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4. It seems the best way to start is the Evolution box set, but I can only find the US version, while I live in the UK. Can I play the US version? Is there an alternative if not? What difference does the US version make?
I think you can buy and play the US version just peachy, but I don't live in the UK so I'll let someone over the pond answer that one.
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#4 Feb 13 2004 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I bet I'm an older git than you are Smiley: smile

1. A couple of 2-hour sessions a week is probably less than a lot of people but friends are friends. You are likely to find that the people you group with initially oout-level you and this may become frustrating. however they probab;ly have lower level alts that can play with you whatever level you are (except on FV of course)

2. You may have to learn a bit more techie than that. If it is 650MHz then it is likely a Pentium 3 or possibly an AMD equivalent. However the key components for EQ are Graphics card and RAM. You really, really need a decent 3D Graphics card. A Geforce2 MX is probably the lowest usable. And you want 512Mb of RAM if you can. 256 can be played. Any less won't work well enough as you'll have to turn off so many things the game will be seriously degraded.

3. If you can play Diablo then you can manage EQ. At least as far as the basics. There is no need to 2-box but it does make soloing much easier. I play 2 accounts on the same PC and it gives me much more independence.

4. Evolutions is available mail order from www.dvdboxoffice.com shipped free worldwide and reliable. I am a UK player too. I have bought several of my copies from them.

Beastlord is an excellent choice as they are both good in groups and excellent solo
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#5 Feb 13 2004 at 11:59 AM Rating: Default
1. you can play whenever you want, if you make friends im sure youll be able to keep touch even if you dont play often. tho it may be a good idea to play a character who can solo.

2. eq is very graphics intensive. if you have all old models on and turn all the settings down you may be ok but if youy have a 650 processor you may have trouble with lag and stuff, especially in any zones after velious

3.you dont need macros or be able to 2 box to play eq and nowadays eq is much more user friendly. you should be able to pick it up relatively quickly

4.the UK version and the US version are exactly the same, because EQ is a world wide game they need to be. go to www.amazon.co.uk and youll will be able to get the UK version anyway.

you should probably start on the stromm server baceus thats the newest server and has the most new players, and a beast lord is a great solo class.
#6 Feb 13 2004 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
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1. I don't get to play very often or for very long. Maybe a couple of 2 hour sessions a week. Will this be a problem 'keeping up' in EQ? I'm worried I won't be able to maintain friendships and so wil have to solo virtually all the time?


i dont see it as a problem, but since you will have limited play time, you might want to pick a charicter that can solo efectively. Necro, Druid, Beastlord, and Ranger are all viable soloers.

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2. Will my PC manage it? I'm not hot on computers but although it meets the requirements just, (650 clock speed) will it suffer from loads of lag?


im running a 1.7 GHZ P4 with 256 MB ram and an GeForce4 MX420 Vid card with all spell effects, Full clip, and half of the new models on. i only get lag in the bazaar and PoK (Plane of Knowledge). Any place where there are alot of people or like Tree movements... in those cases i just turn down the clip plane and that cuts down on lag.

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3. Will I manage it? I've been reading the Newbie Zone before I found this site, it seems everyone is applying macro's, 2 boxing and generally being experts at both computers and games. I don't even know what 2 boxing is, but if it's using 2 pcs at the same time to play 2 characters at the same time then it's way above me. Why do it? Why not just play a party in Baldurs?


you are correct. 2boxing is useing 2 computers at one time. if you are just starting out then dont do it. only people who have played EQ for a while do it. personally my one charicter is more then enough for me to handle and i have been playing for about 2 years..... people do it for the challenge, and to add support to their main charicter. Never played Baldurs so i cant delve into that part.....

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4. It seems the best way to start is the Evolution box set, but I can only find the US version, while I live in the UK. Can I play the US version? Is there an alternative if not? What difference does the US version make?


Cant answer this one. maybe one of our UK posters can.... allthough i think you can purchace the evolutions pack on the internet and it will work over there.....

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I've loads of questions but these are just a few.


Keep askin here and im sure you will find the answers...

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Any help is greatly appreciated because although I may not be to the level of a lot of players, I still think I could have a lot of fun in EQ. (I'm also trying to decide a first character, Beastlord seems to be a good idea. I like to melee, but the pets and a few spells should help if I have to solo)


you will have fun i can garontee that.. and a BL is an excellent choice for a first charicter. and they become very powerfull later on in game. (Read - Soloing Lodi... Akiea you bastage... :) )

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Thanks very much to all of you, it really is great to see all the help people are willing to give. Hopefully I'll be able to pass on the adivice in due time.


Any time....

Enjoy EQ but just remember...

Its Just A Game..........

just have fun and you will enjoy it even if you dont play it to much.....
#7 Feb 13 2004 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Marvellous.

Many thanks to you all, it's great to get such positive replies so soon. My last question is even more importnat to me now though. How do I find this thread tomorrow to check for any extra info? Do I just need to search through the list of threads?

I've previously found a supplier of the US version, so based on what you say I think I'll order a copy. Many thanks, I should be in Norrath just as soon as they can deliver.

Sounds like Beastlord was a suitable choice. How about a Barbarian, hmmmm, sounds good to me.

Thanks for all the Techie advice too, I'm hoping I'm not too far short, I'll compare your points to my PC when I get home.

:D

Lance
#8 Feb 13 2004 at 8:27 PM Rating: Decent
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1. I don't get to play very often or for very long. Maybe a couple of 2 hour sessions a week. Will this be a problem 'keeping up' in EQ? I'm worried I won't be able to maintain friendships and so wil have to solo virtually all the time?

Yes, you will have a problem keeping up with your friends. (Note: EQ 2 addresses this problem.)

Also, just by virtue of not playing often or long, it will be hard to bump into the same people more than once or twice for them to become friends in the first place.

I love EQ and try to get people to play it, but it is a major time sink.
#9 Feb 13 2004 at 10:02 PM Rating: Decent
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1. I don't get to play very often or for very long. Maybe a couple of 2 hour sessions a week. Will this be a problem 'keeping up' in EQ? I'm worried I won't be able to maintain friendships and so wil have to solo virtually all the time?


Try joining a family/friendly guild - many people in guilds of this nature have alts of all sorts of levels, you can make friends, and they could pull an alt on to play.

Another suggestion is to try to find friends who can play an alt on a certain day, say friday if you have more time on that day. They can play their main on the other days.

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3. Will I manage it? I've been reading the Newbie Zone before I found this site, it seems everyone is applying macro's, 2 boxing and generally being experts at both computers and games. I don't even know what 2 boxing is, but if it's using 2 pcs at the same time to play 2 characters at the same time then it's way above me. Why do it? Why not just play a party in Baldurs?


You can actually dual/2 box on one computer - if its good enough and you have some weird skills - but most use 2. Some people do it because they powerlevel characters up and sell them. Other do it because Soloing is a little more dangerous than they would like but have hard time finding groups.
#10 Feb 14 2004 at 1:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Click the "bookmark" icon to save your link to the thread.

Does one need a premium membership to do this? Anyone?

If you can't, just make a note of the thread title and dig for it.

The advice you've received about being a class that's good both in groups and solo is right on. Beastlords are a pretty fun class. Through most of my levels, my friends were usually levelling up faster than me (I tend to waste a lot of time), and I am not overly fond of pick up groups. So I spent lots of time soloing. Despite what people say, magicians are also fine soloers, though not as able as some others once you get to higher levels.

One other thing to keep in mind, once you hit 20, LDoN adventures can be a great option for people with limited play time. Everything's timed, so groups don't have the option of piddling away a bunch of play time. The drops in the dungeons are also pretty good.

Don't worry about 2 boxing. It's an option but it's certainly not necessary. One toon at a time is plenty for most of us.

If your PC has trouble running the game well, you may find it limiting or frustrating.

C'mon in, see how it goes!
#11 Feb 14 2004 at 2:15 PM Rating: Good
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[quoteClick the "bookmark" icon to save your link to the thread.

Does one need a premium membership to do this? Anyone? ][/quote]

Humm not sure about that, but just bookmark it in windows, either right click and bookmark it - or from the menu bar. The thread will be on your favorites for tommorrow.

Not much to add to the rest really, accept you will find people leveling over you - but there are always people around, and you will make friends over time regardless.


I would also say to be prepared to put a bit of time to leveling up through the lower levels if you have previous experience of these types of games, I didn't when I started so was quite happy to spend xxxxx amount of time doing my newbie armour quests and such - others I know have found that a bit slow.


And finally, make sure you sign up with SOE and not Ubisoft :)


Good luck and happy adventuring

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#12 Feb 14 2004 at 6:54 PM Rating: Good
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First off, welcome aboard (Diablo II burnt out rediculously fast for me) If you are only going to play the game that often, but will pay 12.50 a month anyway. Then sure, true you will not go very far, it's a deep game and requires a hellofalot more time than most.

You're PC will work, not too terribly smoothly but it WILL run the game. However, I would suggest a more powerful PC. Make sure you have the new models off and a lot of the specs turned off as well. And don't ever waste massive ammounts of memory on socials. *scowls*

Seeing as how you will be a limited player a ranger was a good choice. Not terribly difficult and able to solo very well. After all, EverQuest isn't a very hard game, just a long one. And you will be able to hold and keep in touch with most of your friends with 2 hours a week.

Now: DON'T GET ME WRONG! If you decide to play EverQuest that's great, good choice. It's a fun game. However, I would suggest something a bit less consuming as far as time, money and dedication.
#13 Feb 16 2004 at 4:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Still more good point, many thanks to you all.

Don't worry Emorez, I get you. I'm willing to try the first free month before I dive in, but I'm confident I'll get hooked. I can talk myself into the £12.50 just cos I don't smoke. (Until kids come along anyhoo!)

Don't understand egnaros point about signing on with SOE instead of Ubisoft though? I've no idea of either. Anyone care to expand?

Thanks again and see you soon. I'm half way through the manual and tapping up my smarter brother to help me add some memory and stuff.

Cheers,

Lance
#14 Feb 16 2004 at 5:26 PM Rating: Good
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Don't understand egnaros point about signing on with SOE instead of Ubisoft though? I've no idea of either. Anyone care to expand?


I'd vist the Eloft forums here - then make up your own mind really

http://forumsuk.ubi.com/messages/overview.asp?name=everquest_general&page=1


The mere fact the UBIsoft were/are not even stocking the latest expansion is way out of line - for whatever technical or trade reasons they have. Even though there are routes for UBIsodt customers to get the expansion, they've had to shout and scream and jump through hoops to get it.


It was jsut reading through the boards, and a couple of other bad ratings that really made to think they are not a good choice - so long as SOE keep up with the digital downloads of course.........

Else im sunk :)

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#15 Feb 17 2004 at 4:57 AM Rating: Decent
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OK, thanks.
#16 Feb 17 2004 at 6:09 AM Rating: Decent
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4. It seems the best way to start is the Evolution box set, but I can only find the US version, while I live in the UK. Can I play the US version? Is there an alternative if not? What difference does the US version make?


As a UK player with 2 copies of eq 1 is english 1 is US and i can say with total confidence there is no effect what so ever on game play.

You would probably with you short play time be best on Venril Sithar <spelling?> as it is the UK server and from experiance it can be hard to get groups in UK day time and early evening on US based servers if you are not in a good guild. However if you are not taken by that come on to Druzzil ro we have a big UK population and you would be more than welcome.
#17 Feb 17 2004 at 6:35 AM Rating: Decent
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OK thanks for that tarv.

I assume Stromm is US based so thanks, I'll certainly try the UK ones. (Apparently ones ending in Bayle are UK too?)

Look out for me, I'll be the one bouncing off the walls and standing still for long periods of time while checking the manual.

LOL. :)

/toon taps foot and sighs

Lance
#18 Feb 17 2004 at 9:03 AM Rating: Good
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I'm located in Europe too, playing on an American server.

This has both a positive as well as a negative side effect: People play partly at other times than me.

The negative part: it is harder to find a guild where its members are online at the times you are. I had this in my previous (family) guild, where the majority of the characters were offline or 'trading in the bazaar' while I was playing, except in weekends and later on in the evenings.

But there are also a few European guilds around, even on American servers. The trick is to find them.

The positive side of being European and playing on an American server is ALSO the time difference. Sure, at certain times of the day (especially around noon and early in the afternoon on weekends) it is harder to find groups as less people are playing... but that also means that less special mobs are being camped. In the 'rush hours' it is often hard to kill special 'named' creatures around the world as the chances are very big that one or another person/group is already trying to spawn them and kill them.
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First off: Welcome to EQ :)

1. You'll make friends and can add them to your friends list. I work nightshift and between sleeping during the day, spending time with my family and working, get to play for 2-3 hours a day, if at all. you'll be fine...

2. My computer is a running at 550, with a 64 ram video card and 512ram. I have to tweek the in-game effects and lower the clip plain at times, but over all EQ runs just fine. I'm on dial-up from Australia and apart from PoKnowledge, Bazaar and on large Raids, lag isn't that noticable, or restrict my playing.

3. Learn to make basic Hotkeys, they are very easy to learn. As for 2-boxing... well i could only wish my wife would let me get a second computer and account.

4. Can't answer that question sorry. I have no idea.

As for Beastlord, it's an excellent soloing and grouping class. My main is a lvl 56 Iksar Beastlord and he's been the most fun to play of all my characters.
Best advice I can offer a new EQ player: Please learn to group effectively, learn to follow orders when in a group. Do some research on the class you choose to play. Here's the addy for the Beastlord forum: The Beastlord's Den

Lastly: Enjoy the game, there's lots to do and see. Take a little time to explore Norrath.

Best of luck!

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#20 Feb 17 2004 at 9:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Sounds like Beastlord was a suitable choice. How about a Barbarian, hmmmm, sounds good to me.


Bah! Iksar > all other Beastlords.

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#21 Feb 17 2004 at 1:08 PM Rating: Decent
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You may start out playing only a couple of short sessions a week Lance, but I'm betting that within a month's time you're staring red-eyed at EQ for 10 hours per day and wanting for more........LOL

Welcome to EQ bro
#22 Feb 19 2004 at 10:58 AM Rating: Decent
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lol at Bridger. Heh, no doubt about it!

Thanks to lagduff, points noted, and I'll read about the races before making my choice. Iksar or Barb. Hmmmmm, Remember Marc Singer? Now that's pretty cool. Can you have weasels and Jaguars as pets?

Thanks to Marisha too. No wonder there are so many servers if you really can get people queing to bash mobs as they spawn.

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Done the manual now. Just need to get that little upgrade and I'm in.

Yeeeee haaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Lance
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