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LOL... everyone that plays this game is SO mean!

When I first started playing EQ, there were only a few dozen people on my server, and everyone was on just to have fun: Kill mobs, loot some cloth (if you're lucky), fill an inventory slot, chat with new friends... pretty simple. NOW, you can't even ask an OOC question in the game without 2 or 3 negative comments coming back to you about your spelling or "noobiness". This game WAS fun, but its quickly losing its flavor. Don't NICE people ever play EQ just to have a little computer gaming fun and chat with people from around the world? That's why I play the game. Otherwise, why not just play Morrowind; a game where you don't need to deal with people and downtimes?

Believe me, I am not a tree-hugging, liberal, bleeding-heart, priest with a propensity to spread goodwill among the flock, but SHEESH... lets lighten up and have a little fun. Help out instead of ignore... Say "Hello" instead of \finger "what are you looking at?"... Teach a newbie how to fletch instead of saying, "figure it out or look it up on the web." This game is supposed to be a light & frothy social artifice... a way for people to gather with a common interest in their spare time. It should not be used to flex the muscles of your overplayed icon or be mean to people that cannot see you. I find it hard to believe that anyone who plays is really as powerful as his or her EQ graphic. And if they are, and can, in fact, resurrect the dead or something, that's great, just keep it to yourself. AGAIN... lets lighten up and have a little fun

sadly out of the 3 games ive played (eq, daoc, ffxi) i rate eq as worst in people being nice. lot of a*holes and jerks in the game. good thing the guild made it worthwhile.

BACK IN THE DAY, old school. nowadays i figure its much worse.

That was a cool person, and it's kind of like real life, a little kindness will sometimes spread out and can go a long way. Whenever I make a run through Freeport with my 50ish Paladin, I always run into a few new characters that I will take the time to throw some of my measly buff spells on. The buffee's always take the time to send a tell of thanks, which I always respond to with a respectful "You are quite welcome".



Well, I might not go that far, but I understand what you are saying. Sometimes, though, somebody's real life situation might force them to momentarily use shortcuts in their spelling. Those of you who are parents will know what I am saying. Sometimes it is hard to be trying to play EQ and also having to look over your shoulder to see who is trying to murder whom when the five-year-olds start screaming at the top of their lungs.



I have also traveled and lived for long periods of time away from the US, and TheWingedLancer is quite correct in this matter. What is interesting is that I found that I got along quite well with both Europeans and Asians when I tried to introduce myself in their language. They inevitably smiled and began speaking better English with me than I could their language. I found that some of my fellow travelers who would abruptly say "Hey, yew, does yew spake Anglish" would often get a chillier reception than I did when I would say "Guten Morgan, mein herr", or something similar in the appropriate language. Simple-phrase books are easy and cheap to purchase in many bookstores, and this small amount of respect has gotten me a long ways when I was in unfamiliar territory, just like I am when I play EQ.

It's all about karma. What you give, you ultimately get back.

Playing a cleric, I get the occasional tell that says "rez me".
Not "will you please rez me?" which is a question. But, "rez me" which is a statement. Yeah bro, I'll rez you, be right there. No charge for that rez either. Hold on, I'm on my way.

I wonder how long they sit there before they realize that I'm not really coming? It makes me laugh just thinking about it.

I think Yanari is spot on.

There are a lot of lazy people in EQ these days and some do need to be pointed in the direction of help. Tradeskill newbies I refer to 'check out the npc's in your home town - see what manuals they have' followed up by 'or check www.eqtraders.com'.

Playing both a necro and a cleric it astounds me when people 'expect' a rez or a summon and seem to be completely ignorant of cost or inconvenience. However that point has been rehashed to death on many forums many times so I will summarize by saying I help where I can and if the person is rude I won't.

On the other hand, a lot of people don't know where to get help and if it was not for a friend I know outside the game I would not have immediately known of this site or many others. Despite the dumbing down attempts of SOE, EQ is still a complex game and while we can all shout, 'RTFM' (wonder who gets that) we should still at least remain civil otherwise we are just as guilty as they are for not helping themselves.

Simply put, no excuse for rudeness. By being rude you are just displaying your own ignorance for all to see, despite how clever you may feel.

In my experience people have been more than kind. I started playing in October of 03 and went into the game knowing nothing about it. People gave me tips, explained the termonology, buffed me without my asking, and were genereally kind in many ways. The only rude people that I have dealt with (not including those who shout in pok demanding help) are those who send me tells begging for equipment. I am more than happy to tell them how to get money for things but I think they should work like I have. On occasion, I have gifted new characters with things that I no longer need but it was my choice not a response to a beggar.

As in everything in life you will find that there are always a couple jerks out there.

However, there are some that are just asking for some abuse.

Like...

There are some people who will sit there and spam messages over and over in PoK. Simple questions that if they had taken the time to do a very cursory search they would have found what they seek. Such as "where are my spells sold?". After 5 to 10 minutes of them spamming I will send them a tell saying "A: they are in the Library-the BIG building on the hill behind the bank. and B: go to https://everquest.allakhazam.com/ and print out a list of your spells. Click on the individual spells and it will tell you who sells them and at later levels whether they are quested or NPC drops."

Or, always my favorite, is the "anyone have and gear/weapons/plat for a level 1 n00b (insert class here)?" I give these guys about 5 minutes of that before I send them a tell suggesting that they do their newbie armor quests, and that spamming beg OOC's in PoK will not win him any friends.

People who demand buffs. The best ones are when I get asked for buffs while playing my Wizard by people who should know what class I play. I do not go anon, I have Flappy by my side and just about everyone over level 10 should know just by looking that I am a wizard. I have been asked for SoW, KEI and to summon both mage pet gear and their bodies, too! I will tell them I am a wizard and if the grand clue does not sink in and they persist I will buff them...I bust out the O'Keils Flickering Flame and pass that out!

Edit-I will on occasion go to newbie zones such as WFP and pass out some gear that I got as loot that would be nice for a true newbie. And depending on the situation will take a person to the bazaar and gear them. For example: I was in WFP when a kitty shammy was frantically begging anyone to buy her some backpacks in EC (vendor doesn't like shammys I guess). I did a /who and this kitty was level 52. I sent her a tell saying I would get them for her and she was so happy someone would help her-she was absolutely frantic. I asked her what was wrong and she told me she got very ill about 3 weeks before and had to be rushed to the emergency room and hospitalized. This happened while she was playing EQ. Her parents, when they got back home, just shut her computer off. She had been in BW soloing and her character apparantly had died and the body rotted, when she brought up her toon it was naked at her bind point. I asked her what she was going to do and she said she was going to go farm Sol A to try to earn some pp to start regearing. I told her I would give her a port after getting her her bags. Did not tell her that I was porting her to the Nexus. When we got there she of course asked why we were there. I told her that I had some gear she could have on my trader to get back on her feet, we just needed to go to the bazaar. What I didn't tell her is that I really didn't have any on my trader outside of a Soulstripper-I went and bought her some nice gear. About 75k worth, I also made her a couple spells that she would be needing (had the componets in my library). She was floored and said she would pay me back. I told her that the sound of the happiness in her tells was payment enough and if she wanted to do something to "pay it back" is to do the same for some deserving soul in the future. She to this day sends me tells expressing her gratitude and is now just about to break 60.



Edited, Fri Feb 13 06:02:33 2004 by TexasWizard

I personally have been playing since december of 2003 and have not meet one angry person. Though, on occasion have grouped with annoying people (run from fights when they reach 40 % and leave you to your own mauling).

I would have to say that i answere questions in /ooc and will tell beggars nicely "getting your own armor and plat is more satisfying). I have been the recipient of a many drive by buffing and now as a 37 beastlord do drive by SoWs( i can't stand to see someone runnign at snails pace).

I just hope people that are just starting the game or have playing for awhile are still having the same great experiences i have had and hope to have.

Where are these mean people that play this game?

I've never seen one. Not a single one. (Granted, only been playing 2 months but still)

I HAVE seen people who act like 10-year olds, and once or twice found out they act that way because that's truly how old they are. I have also run into dozens of people who will answer my eager questions, give me a specific buff, and refuse the miserable coins I try to give them.

It's funny playing a warrior - I don't really have anything I can give back to people helping me other than money (except, I keep spending it all), they must know this, yet they still help out anyway. That is nothing other than nice in my book.

I do agree you have to speak well, understandably; just like in real life, don't be rude, be funny if possible, chat people up then ask questions. The only time I give in to abbreviation is when the kids are crying or something. Maybe that helps.

All in all I'm amazed at the number of fun & nice people I see in the game.

Sadly, I too have seen EQ turn into 'gutter trash' as of late, or at least so on the Xegony server.

I started playing pre-Luclin and people always helped one another out. Even as PoP approached, there were only a few people that I knew of as being idiots that I wish the GM's would do something about.

Not to say it's all horrible, for I too have had LOTS of experience with nice folks such as the post about the 65 SK... I always answer questions from characters lower than myself that are asking for advice. I too will use my research skills to help them with a spell they've failed at 2 times so far, etc. In fact, I've made several good friends from this (either by me asking them about thier class as a 'newbie' or by 'newbies' asking myself of advice on my class).

But last night, what I saw in the Plane of Justice on the Xegony server made me sick. Most of the people in the zone were kids (I'd say pre-16, but I'm a father with kids, so that's my best guess). A person shouted that a Tiny Bottle with a note was dropped in the zone and asked what it was for. This person received so much abuse that went on for well over an hour. Other players in the zone had petitioned, but alas, no GM's or guides and even if they were there, what could they/would they really do?

To say this was the most disgusting behaviour by a group/groups of people that play EQ would be an understatement. There was so much abuse towards this player for (how dare they) asking a question, that I couldn't barely see if I was even hitting the mob I was on, as the window of shouts and ooc's was flying by.

For all of you that say you "just don't see it", perhaps it's not in the form of ooc's and shouts? One one of my toons, we're constantly "kill-stole" from at the hopper caves in DSP (yes, we're there for xp) by players 60+ farming pelts/shards/etc. When politely told that we're camping one of the rooms and to please not steal our mobs, what is the response? The 'super 60+' just rounds up a pile of hoppers or sambatas from deeper in the cave and polietely dumps them on our group and then they either sit back and watch us die/run or they themselves just ignore us and head back down.

Heck, last night as I was LFG on my rogue, I zoned into Plane of Valor just to see a pile of ooc's and shouts about someone that ran up and looted a no-drop item from a mob this group had killed that they were still unable to loot due to 2 other mobs on them. Is that not "being mean" or rude persay?

What about the level 46+ character with the 60+ cleric/shaman that is 2-boxing and powerlevelling their character at a camp that normally a group or 2 groups of people can take? Is this not being selfish or rude? I see this all the time in Plane of Innovation and just shake my head every time I see it.

I'm starting to ramble and starting to lead into a different subject, so I'll end it there. My point being is that 'being mean' and 'rude' are not only words, but actions. All you have to do to see it, is wander into some level 50-60 zones sometime.

I avoid super popular camps like the plague. They are the breeding grounds for the worst behavior in the game. Fun is the goal of my game time.

But that's just my opinion.