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#1 Feb 05 2004 at 2:43 PM Rating: Decent
got this from my guild web page:

The other day as I was sitting in pok, I was contacted by a level 12 ranger who had told me that one of the Guild Members, on trader mode, had just received 10kpp worth of items then conveniently went LD.

Well needless to say, I was furious. I asked for the persons name and immediately removed them from the guild.

This ranger basically demanded that I or SH give him the 10kpp. I informed him that neither myself or SH would refund any money due, but appropriate actions were to be taken....he then said....

Wait....dont remove them from the guild...well I had already done so.

I spoke with Bedio and he obtained further information and I have talked to others. It would seem the scam works this way.

Anyone can go in the Baz, pick a trader name that has a guild tag, then start yelling in the Baz that so and so ripped them off for whatever.

This is a guild leaders worst nightmare actually. No one wants their guild to have a bad reputation, so we all do what we can to have to defuse the situation, quickly and quietly.

This is the scam, if you are going to use your character as a trader, put him up anonymous, no more do I want to see the SH tag in trader mode.

Thank you


Edited, Thu Feb 5 14:44:04 2004 by Singdall
#2 Feb 05 2004 at 2:52 PM Rating: Good
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maybe you should have done some investigating to see if the person was guilty before removing them? hm o_O? Smiley: wink

(not you personally of course...whoever did the disbanding)

Edited, Thu Feb 5 14:52:41 2004 by Empyre
#3 Feb 05 2004 at 2:56 PM Rating: Decent
Jeez, you removed someone from the guild and didn't even investigate the situation first? /boggle

Use trader mules like most do - no connection to guild or anything else for that matter...
#4 Feb 05 2004 at 3:00 PM Rating: Good
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he didnt do it personally, said he read it on his message board from guild (I almost made the same assumption). thanks for the heads up on the scam by the way, but making the guild go /anon in trader mode is no gonna stop scammers from finding ways to scam.

sucks we have to constantly go out of our way to keep from getting scammed...kinda like real life eh?
#5 Feb 05 2004 at 3:25 PM Rating: Decent
not condoning her actions or the way it was delt with, but just wanted to give a heads up on a new scam that will give the scammer the power to make false acusations vs a guild.

just a heads up.

i use a trader mule 99% of the time.
#6 Feb 05 2004 at 4:15 PM Rating: Decent
oops...sorry Singdall...i made a poor assumption
#7 Feb 05 2004 at 4:43 PM Rating: Decent
np. happens.
#8 Feb 05 2004 at 4:47 PM Rating: Good
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making your trader anon wont help in this matter as you can still be targeted and then /guildstatus to find traders in a guild. It would be very easy to set up a hotkey to do this to almost every trader in the bazaar very quickly and then parsed out later.
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#9 Feb 05 2004 at 4:54 PM Rating: Decent
Lord xythex wrote:
making your trader anon wont help in this matter as you can still be targeted and then /guildstatus to find traders in a guild. It would be very easy to set up a hotkey to do this to almost every trader in the bazaar very quickly and then parsed out later.


thanks, ill post that to the web page so our guild will know about this and that anon will not help.
#10 Feb 05 2004 at 5:52 PM Rating: Good
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Ok. I'm confused. How is this a scam? What did the person scam you about. I just think that as scams go, this is a "low tech" as you can get.

Basically, some random person just claims that someone in a guild cheated him? That's not really a scam. That's just someone making something up. Just ignore that person. No one of consequence listens to any of the people who /shout in various zones that "so and so rippped me off... blah blah blah". Most people think of them as an anoyance and tell them to shut the heck up. Why on earth would any guild leader take such a claim seriously, much less disband a guild member without even talking to that person first? That's not really a scam. That's just extreme stupidity on the part of the guild leader.

How did someone rip anyone off while in trader mode? I'm sorry. But it's just not that complicated. You put what you're giving to someone in the trade window, and they put what you want in return in their trade window, and you both hit accept. It's really pretty foolproof (except for really dumb fools). As far as actual tradermode stuff goes, it's even less falible. You can't make a transaction except to buy stuff that they have for sale. Again. How exactly do you rip someone off?


I suppose if someone you've never seen before walks up to you and claims you owe him 20 bucks, you just go "Oh? I do? Ok. Here's your 20...", then you can consider this a scam. I just think it's a case of absolute nonsense and/or stupidity. I'd be just a touch concerned about a guild leader who would actually fall for such a lame stunt... At least he/she didn't actually give that guy money, so that says something, but to deguild someone with zero proof and no investigation? Silly...
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#11 Feb 06 2004 at 3:47 AM Rating: Decent
how can someone get gear from a trader without giving them the money i dont get it
#12 Feb 06 2004 at 9:20 AM Rating: Decent
I didn't understand a word you said. Maybe is you weren't so mad over a game i would understand you more. I don't under stand how he tried to scam you.
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