Can you folks throw a few ideas about specialization my way? My Druid is 31 now(even after my annoying habit of dying two or three times immediately after leveling).
Thanks for the input.
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Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.
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It really depends on how you intend to use your druid. If you plan on grouping and playing healer/backup healer a lot, then alteration may be the way to go. If you root/rot a lot, then conjuration. Quadding/DD a lot, then evocation.
In my experience, evocation/alteration seem the popular choices among most druids.
In my experience, evocation/alteration seem the popular choices among most druids.
I chose Evocation, however, I can see why it would be nice to have alteration. As I seem to split my time allot between DD and healing. Be aware that if you want to change specs there is a very easy and cheap quest you can do to reset all of your specs to 50.
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I went with Alteration and never regretted it. However as pointed out above, it really depends on play style. My druid has always been a group and raid character; I only solo out of necessity.
In the new expansion the first AA I'm planning on buying is the dual specialization one so I can double spec in Evoc, though.
In the new expansion the first AA I'm planning on buying is the dual specialization one so I can double spec in Evoc, though.
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Does alteration apply to Slows and Debuffs?
Definitely slows, some debuffs at least. Druid debuffs are evocation, though.
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Great information thanks,
but do I have to specialize?
And what is this "reset specs to 50" are you talking about skill stats?
all mine are up to 150 now with the exception of Divination, grr.
Maybe I am looking at the wrong stats?
but do I have to specialize?
And what is this "reset specs to 50" are you talking about skill stats?
all mine are up to 150 now with the exception of Divination, grr.
Maybe I am looking at the wrong stats?
Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.
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Laen - 105 Dru
Haam - 105 Sk
Laosha - 105 Shammy
Lutan - 105 Bard
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Laen - 105 Dru
Haam - 105 Sk
Laosha - 105 Shammy
Lutan - 105 Bard
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You are....
Conjuration, ALteration, Divination, Evocation and abjuration all max at about what is it exactly?....5 x lvl + 5?
Anyway Specializations are trained(first) and do something else....My main isn't a caster so I'm not too sure what the difference is.
Not meaning to hijack the thread, but has anyone specialized in Abjuration? Ever? The only chars I could think of that would were a cleric or a sham...which should both go alteration imo.
Conjuration, ALteration, Divination, Evocation and abjuration all max at about what is it exactly?....5 x lvl + 5?
Anyway Specializations are trained(first) and do something else....My main isn't a caster so I'm not too sure what the difference is.
Not meaning to hijack the thread, but has anyone specialized in Abjuration? Ever? The only chars I could think of that would were a cleric or a sham...which should both go alteration imo.
I think it is 5x(level+1), not sure though.
Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.
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Laen - 105 Dru
Haam - 105 Sk
Laosha - 105 Shammy
Lutan - 105 Bard
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Haam - 105 Sk
Laosha - 105 Shammy
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Your specialization lines are different from your regular lines, you can pick all the available speicalizations by spending at least one training point in each. They go up with use like other skills, but only one line can go over the 50 cap. To make sure it is the one you want, spend some extra training points in that one to keep it ahead of rest. If some other line is going up faster, it is likely because you use it more (may want to rethink your specilization if that is the case). I believe the quest refers to the ability to change the one line above 50 cap if you change your mind later after one goes over the limit.
You don't really have to specialize, no, but it is a great idea. Specializing is a great thing, because the higher the "Specialize <insert spell type here>" skill is, the less likely you are to fizzle a spell of that type, the less time it takes to cast a spell of that type, and I believe you randomly use less mana to cast a spell of that type.
So, to clarify.
Abjuration, Evocoation, Alteration, Conjuration and Divination:
The spell types that all casters have, and these all cap at the level+1 * 5 formula.
Specialize Evocation, Specialize Abjuration, Specialize Conjuration, Specialize Alteration and Specialize Divination are completely seperate skills that give the bonus highlighted above. When you hit 30 (or 20 for an int caster), put a training point into each of these, then, either train the one you like the most all the way to 51 to ensure that one is your "primary" specialize, the one that gets the most bonuses highlighted above. Or, leave them all at base and see which one goes up more as you play then base your decision that way.
My druid primarily solos, so I chose specialize evocation for DDs and quading, but alteration is also a fine choice for grouping because it improves heals.
When people talk about resetting them all to 50 they are referring to a quest in the Temple of Ro that allows you to reset your primary specialize down to 50 so that you can chose a new primary specialize.
Good luck!
So, to clarify.
Abjuration, Evocoation, Alteration, Conjuration and Divination:
The spell types that all casters have, and these all cap at the level+1 * 5 formula.
Specialize Evocation, Specialize Abjuration, Specialize Conjuration, Specialize Alteration and Specialize Divination are completely seperate skills that give the bonus highlighted above. When you hit 30 (or 20 for an int caster), put a training point into each of these, then, either train the one you like the most all the way to 51 to ensure that one is your "primary" specialize, the one that gets the most bonuses highlighted above. Or, leave them all at base and see which one goes up more as you play then base your decision that way.
My druid primarily solos, so I chose specialize evocation for DDs and quading, but alteration is also a fine choice for grouping because it improves heals.
When people talk about resetting them all to 50 they are referring to a quest in the Temple of Ro that allows you to reset your primary specialize down to 50 so that you can chose a new primary specialize.
Good luck!
You cannot reset all of your skills with the quest mentioned, just your specialization skills. It resets them to 50. Whatever spec hit 51 first will be the only spec skill that goes above 50 after that.
As for doing it?? Why not. In most cases you have planty of training points by the time you reach lvl 30. When you put a point in a specialization it immediately goes to 30. It costs very little if you want to dump a bunch of surplus training points into the area you wish to spec in. Just make sure that one hits 51 before the rest and you are done.
If you only have 5 training points to spend, put one in the skill you want to spec and then go out and cast that spell until it reaches 51 then you can go and put one point in each of the others.
I specialized in alteration for my druid because my healing skills seemed to be what got me into groups. It does not detract from your other abilities, it simply is a bonus to spells of that particular school. And you can specialize in all, just cannot raise the points over 50 for all.
As for doing it?? Why not. In most cases you have planty of training points by the time you reach lvl 30. When you put a point in a specialization it immediately goes to 30. It costs very little if you want to dump a bunch of surplus training points into the area you wish to spec in. Just make sure that one hits 51 before the rest and you are done.
If you only have 5 training points to spend, put one in the skill you want to spec and then go out and cast that spell until it reaches 51 then you can go and put one point in each of the others.
I specialized in alteration for my druid because my healing skills seemed to be what got me into groups. It does not detract from your other abilities, it simply is a bonus to spells of that particular school. And you can specialize in all, just cannot raise the points over 50 for all.
/hijack on
So as a shaman, you'd be crazy to specialize in anything besides alteration, no?
So as a shaman, you'd be crazy to specialize in anything besides alteration, no?
I am a shammy, didn't do alteration, and it got so annoying, I had to reset to specialize in alteration. I use it all the time and within hours it was up to 130 already.
Here's my 2cp worth.
My druid picked Alteration. My other choice would have been evocation. My reasoning was fairly straight forward.
Evocation will improve my spell casting in "nuke" type situations. In these situations, rarely will there be a fatal problem if a spell fails. It may be embarrassing and uncomfortable, but simply hitting the cast button again quickly should resolve the problem.
With Alteration, a failed spell even for a few seconds can easily result in a death, usually of the tank or other critical group member, even yourself.
Don't know if that will help you, but it made it pretty easy choice for me.
Flewid the druid
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My druid picked Alteration. My other choice would have been evocation. My reasoning was fairly straight forward.
Evocation will improve my spell casting in "nuke" type situations. In these situations, rarely will there be a fatal problem if a spell fails. It may be embarrassing and uncomfortable, but simply hitting the cast button again quickly should resolve the problem.
With Alteration, a failed spell even for a few seconds can easily result in a death, usually of the tank or other critical group member, even yourself.
Don't know if that will help you, but it made it pretty easy choice for me.
Flewid the druid
Terris-Thule
Thanks for the confirmation - alteration it is.
I just did this last nite while I was in zone helping a friend with Cleric epic. My buddies were spamming my chat channel so I missed the text that followed the turn in. When I checked my skills, nothing had changed and I thought "Hey!! He ate my ruby!! Jerk!!". So after scrolling up my chat window the text stated something about my mind returning by the time I left there. I zoned out and everthing was back at 49.
So remember!! Zone afterwards.
So remember!! Zone afterwards.
But do NOT gate, unless that is the skill you want up he he.
Thanks for the good ideas and great info. A lot of stuff I had no clue about.
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I have made a decision to go with Abjuration just to be different.
Lol.
Just kidding, Alteration it is. Thanks for clearing up the difference between the regular training skills and the specialization skills.
I am level 36 now so I pondered the question a whole 6 levels, Lol.
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I love this board and the people are who make it great.
/shameless stroking off.
I have made a decision to go with Abjuration just to be different.
Lol.
Just kidding, Alteration it is. Thanks for clearing up the difference between the regular training skills and the specialization skills.
I am level 36 now so I pondered the question a whole 6 levels, Lol.
Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.
Barack Obama
Laen - 105 Dru
Haam - 105 Sk
Laosha - 105 Shammy
Lutan - 105 Bard
Barack Obama
Laen - 105 Dru
Haam - 105 Sk
Laosha - 105 Shammy
Lutan - 105 Bard
What a nice job of sucking up!
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Or how about my second account cleric (originally alt) who somehow ended up with conjuration as his spec, and now has become my main character.
Hehehe needless to say the minute I found about being able to reset that "dirty little hidden secret" went away.
Reset quest sets all specialization points to 49.
Hehehe needless to say the minute I found about being able to reset that "dirty little hidden secret" went away.
Reset quest sets all specialization points to 49.
Yes, it was as fine a job of sucking up as i have done in a while.
LOL
Still, done with good intentions.
LOL
Still, done with good intentions.
Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.
Barack Obama
Laen - 105 Dru
Haam - 105 Sk
Laosha - 105 Shammy
Lutan - 105 Bard
Barack Obama
Laen - 105 Dru
Haam - 105 Sk
Laosha - 105 Shammy
Lutan - 105 Bard
Thanks for the link, it's great info.
Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.
Barack Obama
Laen - 105 Dru
Haam - 105 Sk
Laosha - 105 Shammy
Lutan - 105 Bard
Barack Obama
Laen - 105 Dru
Haam - 105 Sk
Laosha - 105 Shammy
Lutan - 105 Bard
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