what do ye think of other rpgs?Follow

I've played various different rpgs on a rake of different systems. Listing the ones I've played to completion:

Defenders of Oasis (Sega gamegear)
Zelda -links adventure (SNES)
Zelda - Ocarina of time
Final Fantasy 7, 8, (Partly through FFX) (PS1 and PS2)
Diablo 2 (PC) (-beaten it on normal and nightmare. Hell mode is a tough mother ******)
Partly through Morrowind (Almost became the Neveraine -a holy saviour of the dark elves- but abandoned it cos it keeps crashing on my current computer :(

Do ye even class some of those games as rpgs? most of them pale in comparison with the complexity of a mmorpg.
Have EQ players played a similar random smattering of RPG's before heading to Norrath? Do ye ever intend leaving Norrath to go play some other MMORPG?

I've played most of the Final Fantasies (1,5,6,7,8,9,10)...meh. FF5 was good though.

I played through KOTOR once...meh. I like equipment choices and more than 20 abilities in my RPGs.

Morrowind is awesome, IMO. There should be more games like that.

Currently, besides EQ, my vice is Disgaea. God is that game awesome.

The Balder's Gate and Icewind Dale series both rock, as does Neverwinter Nights.

ocarana (sp) of time is one of if not the best game of all time is it better than all games now maybe not but for its time i got more enjoyment and excitement out of playing it then i have on anything since

I played old paper D&D and AD&D...Also played Boot-hill and Gamma World...both paper RPG. (You did ask about RPGs and not just computer based...lol)

As for video...I played UO back pre-EQ. I love Morrowinds, which I have on XBox. I also like Knights of The Old Republic.

I love Morrowinds. I wish more games were like that. It had the open do-whatever-I-want feel that EQ has, and yet your actions follow you. For isntance, ou kill someone now, you may find that later on you need that person. You go back and that person is dead. You steal something off of a shelf at lvl 3, at lvl 25 you may need that item to complete a quest. Now you have to remember where you sold it. Unlike EQ where if you wait, people and items will re-pop.

I played DOAC and found it to be a good game, with many features that made it better than EQ. It's weakness is that it failed to encourage the level of social itnereaction with other players as EQ does. I played one character to high levels hardly ever intereacting with others...just NPCs. While it is nice to have that, I like the social atmosphere of EQ.

Hmmm... I wouldn't even qualify most of those games as RPGs anyway. They're mostly just console games with a character that picks up objects and uses them. They're only a very small step removed from games like Doom and Quake (is there really a difference between finding and using keys and finding and using "quest objects" beyond the names?).

In my humble (and snobbish perhaps) opinion, you aren't playing a "roleplaying" game unless there's some roleplaying involved. That means more then just having a name for the set of pixels you're contolling on the screen. Aside from window dressing, there's no difference in playing "Zelda, master of whatever", and "random blob of goo". The play is exactly the same. Games where you are given a choice of actions and those actions cause the game to take different directions can *almost* be called RPGs, but they're still just choices to make (do I turn left or right?).


A true RPG requires interaction. It requires that there be choices and consequences beyond those directly tied to the completion of game goals themselves. I find it hard to call any single player game a RPG simply because all choices in the game are either inconsequential, or are simply logic choices to completing the game. The only computer/console games that can really call themselves RPGs are the MMORPGs (or at least ORPGs). The role you chose to play has consequences outside the direct goals of the game content purely because you are interacting with people. Your rep in EQ means alot. Thus, how you play your character means alot. The goal is not always to get as much money and gear as possible out of every situation. You can, but you'll **** people off. Building up even a rudimentary personality for your character in EQ often feels natural, makes the game more enjoyable, and makes it easier for others to deal with you.


Don't get me wrong. I suppose you can roleplay a single player game just as much as a multi-player one. However, the computer/console really doesn't care. People do. It's kinda like performing a play. While you certainly can do it without an audience, most people would consider it pointless...

Asheron's Call was quite original for the 18 months I've played it. The monthly events kept the game as fresh as possible.

I've played Morrowind (both the PC and Xbox version) and it is very epic, though I kinda swing to Dark Elves joining a good house (i.e. House Redoran).

KOTOR and the Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale series are excellent PC RPG's, while KOTOR's Xbox version is one of my favorites to go with another console RPG--Gladius.

Ahhh yes. I have EAs College Football 2003. I am on my 8th season. It is great. I took a lowly two star school to play in a national title game in the 5th season and is now a 5 star recruiting power. It really is alot of fun and more to it than just playing the football games. The off-season is a lot of fun in the game.

Other than that, most sports games loose their appeal before I even finish a season, especially because I tend to have an team that the AI cannot beat...Once again, in the college football game you have to recruit and if you start with a lowly football program you just are not going to field a team to compete well.

But alas, they are not RPGs. As for roleplaying single palyer games...well soem games are designed to roleplay in their intereaction with the AI...Morrowinds comes to mind. I do develope a personality and play a role with my character more so than with most other single player games.

Note: I role play when I play Medal of Honor and it drives some people nuts. For example, I come up next to someone and ask him if he has eaten his red cross hershey bar yet or if he has seen the hot nurse at the aid station. LOL Guess it just does not work.

I'm surprised no ones mentioned star wars galaxies

I played eq for 3 years on rz before i left for swg. I havn't played eq since.

varrus

zeldas i didnt really get into after the NES one. Diablo2 I still play to kill time...TONS of time invested in that game. the FF series...o yeah..still working on FFX2 little by little.

Morrowind was awesome. The newer combined title is a lot less buggy and is just tons of fun. I became the Nevarine and built my faction house..it REALLY got fun once I got my house built and was able to put all my crap in there instead of random caves I cleared. Plues the optional vampire and werewolf quests are awesome...the graphics (especially in expansions) are just awesome..as are the add-on modules some people do.

Neverwinter Nights was fun..kinda hard to put too much time into IMO tho. Feel the same about baldurs gate series and Icewind Dale as well.

Warcraft 3 has gotten my attention again recently..the game is truly a work of art.

Another great game you can get really cheap right now and is AWESOME is the Kohan series. Arimahns Gift is tight as is the sequel.

Then theres an all time favorite oldie...Moria. :)

I do remember all the commands and stuff I had to hotkey in GemStone III and DragonRealms, and that was years ago....Oh, how I miss splitting moss meys or morah creepers apart with a blessed karambit wielded by a human paladin.

*sighs and raises his hand hesitantly* I say, with much sorrow, that I am one who has recently left EQ for FFXI. I've kept my EQ account active and popped in every once in a while to say hi to guildmates but other than that it's been all FFXI. I have to say that I'm already getting tired of it though and will most likely migrate back with this expansion. FFXI does so many things right in my opinion (more exciting battle system with renkei, graphics to die for) but it is SEVERELY lacking in the "community" department. This is why I will be returning. I have seen no RP in 2 months and 40+ levels of play, and a degree of politeness that is matched only by members of a fourth grade classroom. The bottom line in my opinion, the people make the EQ experience for me, graphics and the like cannot come close to making up for it. Don't worry Firiona Vie, you'll be seeing my face again very very soon.

Achaia Angelfeather
61st Cleric of Tunare
Firiona Vie