Some good one liners I've heard recently...Follow

Hehehee..I'll have to remember that one Malkindred...Can't even think of how many times I've had to turn reposition because some big old caster was getting in front of my itty bitty tank self and I couldn't see anymore.

Pickup group in The Overthere
Tank: I have to ****
Healer: then go
Tank: I am (as he continues to pull)


Not another word about this was said but im sure everyone else wondered like I did.

From last night in the first room of a BB LDoN:

Mage to Cleric: All right, you pacify the others and then the tank will pull one.
Cleric: Do what?
Mage: Pacify.
Cleric: I don't have that one.
Mage: Are you serious?
Cleric: Uh, yeah.
Mage: What? Aren't you like level 42? You're telling me you don't have that spell?
Cleric: No. Don't need it.
Mage: WTF? Are you serious? How can you not have that spell?
Cleric: Don't need it. I heal - that's what I do.

herkup, Belhade hit 50 like a month ago

Don't worry though, my necro is still only 38.

Hey Ihuffman, which server was that?



Hmm, I don't recall seeing similar lines in LDoNs in Terris-Thule. I will say this, one good Dark Elf Necro is a good, social necro that's on the main's friends list.

One good cleric who's in the same guild as my main had a pretty good pacify line.

Cleric says to the party, "Making %t some herbal tea. Hopefully he/she won't attack."

slight hijack here. A personal beef. WHY?

I get the same requests (and I do know what the spell does)

To my mind the people who need it are those with slow, time-critical casts.

First in line are slowers. They need spell haste. The faster a slow lands the less damage is taken.
Druids need it for direct heals
Enchanters need it for slows but not mezzes (which are too fast) and possibly for Pacify

Wizards don't need it. They time their casts anyway and it is not critical that they land 10% sooner.
Mages ditto (except possibly if they are healing their pet - unusual in groups with healer)
Clerics don't need it (surprise) None of the heals I use are affected by it.
Hybrids don't need it - their spells are all too fast to benefit. (Possible exception for Pacify on Paladin pulling)
Melee definitely don't need it. My rogue seems to get given it quite often

In raid encounters with massive hp mobs then there is more of an argument for Wizards, mages, Necros and other Spell-dps classes getting it since they will be chain-casting. Although even here we are only talking of them getting in one additional cast every 10 casts. In LDoN where the individual mobs fall so fast the benefit is lost.


In short for most people it is a worthless buff that consumes 300 mana to cast.

Sorry for the Hijack. I feel much better now.

here's a one-liner for you to make up for it. Not sure if it's a "good" one though - it nearly lost us the LDoN.

Cleric_01 "healing Tank_01 with Ethereal Light" (repeat copiously)
Cleric_01 "OOM need to med"

Unknown1: Why can't I sharpen my rusty Ulak?
Unknown2: Maybe Ulak the skills.

I laughed my *** off to this one :)

Good Question Cobra...perhaps I should outline my casters for you

1) I play a cleric, Cleric got buff...group want buff...cleric give buff...make group happy...personally I spell haste all casters because the faster they get their spells out...the sooner we can be on the next mob...but that's just me...I'm also one of those strange people who actually research what's in my spell book...the only time I've had to say, sorry I dont have that spell...was because it was 10k in the bazaar and the drop MoB required a group I hadn't gotten together to camp the spell yet.

2) Main is a druid who is often MH so she oftent tries to buy a shot before zoning in.

3) Enchanter - Mezzes and stuns...if you dont BoF your chanter...and if you start C-Heal on them at 20% ... you need to delete your cleric or maybe go sit in your room and feel the difference between metal, leather and cloth.... WOW see how thin and soft cloth is?

4) Necro...usually when I'm on the necro she is the mezzer...ghetto mezz takes a bit to cast and I can only send my pet to tank so many adds till i get the mezz off but frankly as she has never once managed to get BoF outta the cleric...I have no clue if its even worth asking for...

5) My BL never asks for BoF...actually she doesn't as for anything...she did have to ask for a heal once when she was 15% and the cleric was too busy nuking to bother...but that was in DL when she was tanking...


Perhaps I do have a slight beef with people who play a class poorly in their 50's and 60's...I also hate peas...go figure.

Edited, Fri Feb 13 15:43:02 2004 by plick

Edited, Fri Feb 13 16:02:09 2004 by plick

Monk_01 tells the guid:Let's go kill something where I can pull!
smartarse_01 tells the guild: /em unzips pants


Cobra, as for your beef with casters wanting/needing BoF/R it isn't necessary but sometimes in the case of an overpull it's nice to be able to burn a mob or two down fast. Yesterday I was hydraing my wife's cleric along with Tweelis. We also had a wizard with us in Plane of Valor. Wizard was pulling and every once in awhile we would get an add. Having BoR decrease my nuke's casting time helped and it also helped the wizard keep the add rooted/snared. Granted it's only a second off the casting time but when you're wearing tissue paper for armor that extra half to full second is the difference between life and death.

For someone so keen on knowing your spells you might like to explain this. BoF/R has absolutely no effect on Enchanter mezzes and stuns.

And I would never CH an Enchanter in combat. SR is often the only thing that will help. Often if the pull looks iffy I'll put a HoT on them for safety. However forget that silk and feel the rune. Most enchanters I work with can take a lot of knocks before their hp start to move. So I'll not delete my cleric just yet, thanks.

The low level Necro mezz is too fast for BoF/R to help but the 63 one would be helped.

If your Druid as main healer is using Tunares Renewal or the better one then they are not helped by Spell haste. Their other heals are.



BoF/R will do nothing at all for the Root or Snare. It is only 10% Spell haste so you'd have to have a 10 second cast before it saved you a whole second. More normally you might save half a second. I submit that the number of times the mob would have killed you in an extra half second are relatively few.

Cobra

We have 2 mobs to kill at the camp.

Wizard has one of them rooted. He has to continually root or he's toast. His mana is much better spent nuking rather than rooting but in order for us to survive he has to root.

My pet is tanking the other mob. In order to burn my mob down fast so the wizard doesn't run oom my firebolts are being cast as soon as the gem pops. Since firebolt has a 7 second cast time, bor decreases it to 6.3 seconds. After the 5th or 6th cast of firebolt of talon the seconds are adding up. Multiply 6 casts times 0.7 seconds and you have 4.2 seconds less that the wizard needs to keep the add parked away from us. Granted 4.2 seconds isn't an eternity but that is one less root the wizard has to cast. It's also that much faster that my pet can get on the second mob.

My pet does just fine tanking one golem in valor, two of them and the wonderful Loading, please wait......will show up.