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#1 Jan 19 2004 at 10:39 AM Rating: Decent
What is the difference between Group V1 and V2 spells.
#2 Jan 19 2004 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
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I have NO clue what you are eluding too...

Is that from Everquest?
#3 Jan 19 2004 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
Probably wrong, but I think V2 group buffs can be cast on someone not in your group and it will buff all members of that players group.

V1 Will only affect your group, regardless of who you are targetting.
#4 Jan 19 2004 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
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I know of no buff that can only be cast on your group

/targetgroupbuff on
or
/tgb on

Allows you to cast group buffs on other groups getting up to all 6 in that group + yourself.

Not at all beyond reason that there are buffs that dont work this way that I am unaware of however.
#5 Jan 19 2004 at 12:42 PM Rating: Decent
Yeah, I think you are correct.

Only other thing I can think of is it being like haste "types":

V0 - Worn Haste
V1 - Spell/Bard Haste
V2 - Bard stacking haste
V3 - Bard stacking/cap raising haste

Will only be affected by one of each haste type, maybe it's the same thing. Just guessing.
#6 Jan 19 2004 at 3:05 PM Rating: Decent
Here is an example,

The 49 cleric spell Word of Healing is a group heal. The target type is Group v1.

The 52 cleric spell Heroic Bond is a group buff. The target type is Group v2.

I am just making sure I understand the difference. Thanks for the input.
#7 Jan 19 2004 at 3:25 PM Rating: Decent
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I know of no buff that can only be cast on your group


Sunskin (or any form of invis actually).

For fairly obvious reasons.

(suppose it may actually land on all players, just doesnt take effect. must go test one day).


pretty sure there used to be a topic on this in the old Lucy forums, but they seem to be gone.
#8 Jan 19 2004 at 4:21 PM Rating: Decent
From your example I would guess that this has to do with the restrictions on the buff. Such as, group Temp would be group v.1 because it can hit anyone. However, HoV might be Group v.2 because it can only hit those 45+. This is only a theory but it makes sense with your example and seems logical to me.
#9 Jan 19 2004 at 4:52 PM Rating: Good
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Does this work with Druid spells as well? like Pack spirit or group chloro. And if so is there a /<command> to target different groups in raids?
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#10 Jan 19 2004 at 5:59 PM Rating: Good
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rcconner wrote:
The 49 cleric spell Word of Healing is a group heal. The target type is Group v1.

The 52 cleric spell Heroic Bond is a group buff. The target type is Group v2.


Actually, based on this info, it looks more like Toasticle is right. It has to do with whether the group spell can be cast on members not in your group or not.

Group heals are completely limited to your own group. In fact, they aren't even targetted spells. You just cast them and they automatically hit your own group. Since he said it's the "target type", this seems to be a likely explanation for the differences.


Of course, those two particular spells also differ based on who they can be cast on (all levels, or 46+ only), so they are a bad example. The easy way to check would be to look at a lower level spell (like say Valor). If Valor and HB are both "target type: Group v2), then it's the targetting, and not the level restriction. If they are different groups, then it's the level restriction (since that's the only difference between Valor and HB).
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#11 Jan 21 2004 at 3:33 AM Rating: Decent
Toasticle is right, it means its a group only buff that can be cast on other groups. I was just checking up on Talisman of the Tribunal (62 Shaman spell) because I was having issues with it landing on people in group and out. Its a V2 spell, it is group only but can be cast out of group. The V2 is there to signify that difference. V1, are group but only can be cast on your own group.
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