Well either I am incredibly lucky or they increased the drop rate cause I got all the gems on first drop and the seal on like the second group of mobs.

Can anyone tell me if quest is bugged?
Try to get quest.
Vaelan change into human, i can speak to him, but no quest

The currently bugged quest can be bypassed by getting another Unadorned Seal of Ascension.

All the above is almost crap.

Get Quest or Hand in.
Enter Foyer.
Right hand side up ramp and turn right.
Stop at ledge and watch for Pat.
Jump down left side of ledge.
Down ramp and turn left and follow corridor.
Come into large room hard left to wall.
(note if you want to see where you have to then hard right. Look up and diagonally across room to about halfway point. You will see the quest giver/returner x2 up on a ledge. Look to the right and on same level as you are. There is a stone face slope you can make out beyond the flat wall. You need to go up that to it's far corner where you can jump up to same level as Valean.)
If you are 60 hug the left wall all the way around you will not aggro, the 55 that came with me did aggro the mob.
(So enter room hard left you will be safe either right or left no mobs there. Hug left wall turn left hug, turn right, hug, turn left to slope, go around stone slab/obstruction left and up to top corner. From there obvious.)

Approach Valean he looks like a bad guy but transforms and speaks to you.
He will give you the quest, a 55 came with me and could not get it so I'm guessing you need to be up near 60.

You get the quest (I had gems and seal). Hand in quest. He gives you a box with two items. Open the box put items in your bag. Now you have to go to Dustwallow Marsh to a cave where there is a Dragon. Take a group of 5 people have a healer.
You fight the dragon till about 5% of health remains. Tell your group not to be idiots and use DOT's. The round item from the box will take over the dragon. If you have a pet Dismiss before starting you cannot be in control of the Dragon and another pet.

Once you have the Dragon to about 10% place the Seal on the ground by right clicking on it.

Then at about 5% of Dragon health stand near or under Dragon (healer handy now) and use the orb looking item by right clicking. This is how you take over the Dragon. Once in control you will get an extra bar (like pet bar) use the Flame option. You will be in control of the Dragon it's like Eyes of the Beast if you are a Hunter. Take the dragon to where you have placed the second item (It can be placed more than once near each other 5 Max). It does not seem to target the Seal to be fordged so try clicking on the seal and zoom the dragon eyes onto the seal, remember time is limited. Activate the Flame action on the Dragon Bar. Have one of your members nearby so tey can see if the seal becomes "Right clickable for looting". If so your done kill the dragon loot the seal (not from the dragon) and return to Valean.

Now remember it becomes a Loot item so anyone can take it!! be careful of slack Horde especialy Wizbangflash he ninja'd ours. Hopefully he will be thrown from the game.

The Key to UBRS is not a key it's a Ring. Approach UBRS door and it will just open for you.

Hope this helps. (PS I now hate all Horde)



Seal drops from about any mob easy to get, you can only carry one.
Gems are from Bosses -

Quest can be done in a raid. Here is a summary of who drops what (in order of appearance):

Gemstone of Spirestone = Highlord Omokk
Gemstone of Smolderthorn = War Master Voone
Gemstone of Bloodaxe = Overlord Wyrmthalak
Unadorned Seal of Ascension = random drop from any mob in instance (or buy it off AH)

Thanks Cooljake above.


All the best hope it helped.

If you're a hunter and find yourself in a position of soloing the trip to Vaelan, here's what I did...

Required Consumables: None
Aspect of the Monkey and Track Humanoids up for the entirety.

Zone in, Dismiss Pet and wait by the door for the 2 patrolling mobs to clear the area, then run up the right stairs and around the corner to the drop off and Feign Death.

Drop down and wait on the ramp where you won't agro the lower patrol and call your pet. When that patrol emerges from the hallway near the Invoker, send your pet on the patrol (make sure Growl is on) and run by, through the hall and around the corner to the edge (where you would drop down for the shortcut to Hordemar City) and Feign Death.

Wait for the patrol to come to the edge of the hallway and return, then move away from the ledge to the inside wall. Send your pet on the Raider and run by. Keep against the wall on your left and Feign Death when you're clear. You can now approach Vaelan without any further agro and hearth out.

I tried this just to see if I could and had no problem. I got a little beat up in the first room, but that was about it. You could send your pet for that too if you wanted to, but I wanted to make sure I wouldn't be there too long and agro the patrol again or jump/fall off and have my pet pull the whole room. In retrospect, I should have used Deterrence, but didn't think of it at the time.

Good luck!

Shaman tactic

To get to the quest giver...you can join a ubrs full run! When you are finished...you can jump of the bridge and down to questgiver...you might die from the fall...(havent really tried it), but what do we have ankhs for! =D

Edited, Sun Jun 11 19:43:35 2006

I got the seal, and the stones form Ommok and Wyrm all in the same run. Going back after Voone tonight too. (Maybe he'll finally drop my Beaststalker's Gloves now that I need something else too)

Reward is Seal of Ascension.

This opens the door to UBRS, provides some protection from Gyth's breath, and allows you to summon Vael while fighting Rend.

Do people who post here actually read previous messages??? they keep repeating the same questions that's been answered already...

Yes it is for the UBRS Ammulet (key).

The orcs in Orc Alley have the highest droprate for the unadorned seal. I ran the instance about 20 times before I finaly got my last two stones. Good luck.

do you have to be in a raid or group to get the quest? I'm a lvl 58 druid went to him and couldn't get the quest

I have 2 of the gems and the seal, but have dropped the quest. I've gone back to Vael, but can't get the quest again. Does anyone know if I would need to drop the items to get the quest again? Or should I just be able to get it agian?

anyone who could submit a screenshot of minimap of where the guy are?

Quest can be done in a raid. Here is a summary of who drops what (in order of appearance):

Gemstone of Spirestone = Highlord Omokk
Gemstone of Smolderthorn = War Master Voone
Gemstone of Bloodaxe = Overlord Wyrmthalak
Unadorned Seal of Ascension = random drop from any mob in instance (or buy it off AH)

Edited, Mon Dec 12 21:24:08 2005

I can't get this quest off this guy, I talked him many times but he just doesnt give the quest, could anybody help me with this? do you have to get the seal first to start the quest or something?

20 times i have visited the honourable mr. voone, and still no drop. what gives?

if i see those damn throwing axes one more time, i will puke

As of the latest patch, the gemstones are green BOP instead of white BOP, as they were last patch. So with default loot settings, everyone can roll for them, instead of having to tell everyone not to loot the corpses twenty times before each boss fight...

This quest raidable?

i suppose this is they quest for the ubrs key?