Just got both the of the parts and almost to lvl 50 in a random run i decided to tank for witch consisted of mainly casting classes :D Right now I'm a prot pally. Did some 29 twink pvp for a while to save up on marks before respecing and leveling- now I'm not sure if I want to respec again and go do some more PvP with the combined or just stick as a tank and lvl up quickly>.< Choices :P
Wow . . . I have ran ZF many, many times while leveling up my other 4 toons. NEVER have I seen either of the swords drop.
About an hour ago, a shaman was running his druid alt through ZF for that leather head piece and some exp and let me tag along on my ret pally. Both of them dropped . . . I still can't believe it. My pally is just lvl47 so I still can't use it. I can't wait. The SoC procs are gonna be <3!
This is quite possibly the most overrated weapon in the game. I can't tell you how many players have begged for runs and salivated over this with their 'OMG! I have one of the swords! I need the other so I can get my EPIC!' It's good for ret palies but that's about it, yet I see even hunters crapping their pants over this. You can get the much better Ice Barbed Spear for significantly less effort. Heck even a noob hunter can sit around AV and be useless and still get it.
This sucks that something as awesome as this it has a great proc and great damage but it sucks cuz my lvl 45 rogue has both sang'thraze and jang'thraze the weaps u need to combine in order to make sul'thraze but anyway it sucks that something thats looks so sweet like this will be disenchanted once i find better weaps then sang'thraze and jang'thraze cuz im going to combine them to make sul'thraze as soon as i find weaps that deal more damage and then im goin to DE it and ill prolly gettin a piece of crap nexxus crystal they arent rlly worth anything now that burning crusade has come out.
I am a PVE Arms warrior who just got this sword. But before i got this i used the Kang with Crusader enchant. I do way more dmg with the axe and crit more often... but the axe is a lvl 44 weapon and this is a 50, should i vendor this sword and use the axe and if so, how long should i use it? What weapon do i want after this sword/axe?
a friend was levling enchanting and was running through ZF over and over again.
I asked if I could join to maybe have a chance to get these two weapons and then get the epic sword.. he said okey, sure.
I think I was level 40 then.
we went in.. killed first boss, and cheers, the sword. :D
Killed second boss, cheers, the sword. :)
And then I had to wait 10 levels befor I could combine them. But Dualwielding them is really sweet. Good dps and all, I had a arms specc with points in axe/polearm so I wasnt really specced sword, but I had better dps then with a polearm. =)
And as soon as I got to 50, combined and enchanted with Crusader, specced sword. Got a imba combo before today. Was in Ungoro killing a gorilla, and like *swoosch swoosch*, I got a extra attack, and got in the chance on hit here, and even procced crusader two times. the strength buff didnt stack, but I got healedx2. 85+96 or something like that.. not much, but was sweet. :D
I had both swords drop for me over 4 runs in ZF. Won the first sword on a Need roll against a pally. On my fourth run Jan'thraze dropped. I wasn't expecting it to drop at all considering how low the drop rate is, I was quite suprised. I had to beg a hunter in my party to not roll on Jan'thraze when it dropped, lol. He wanted to need it, thank god my whole party convinced him to pass. It's NOT a hunter sword. I'm a Lvl 47 pally right now and I'm excited to get to 50 to use this sword.
yeah, anyone other than the core melee classes in the game, rouge, warrior, or pally, should NOT ever roll on the swords. especially huntards. there's no stats at all, even on the epic, and huntards have range that does far more dmg than their melee does. get an idiot huntard in your group? boot em, i say.
yeah, anyone other than the core melee classes in the game, rouge, warrior, or pally, should NOT ever roll on the swords. especially huntards. there's no stats at all, even on the epic, and huntards have range that does far more dmg than their melee does. get an idiot huntard in your group? boot em, i say.
I say to you you are the stupidest person I have ever seen, the only thing that is lacking for that sword (for hunters) is that there is no agility bonus for it, the problem with hunter weapons is that they don't get much in the damage area, for all they usually have good bonuses. This sword solves that problem AND if you actually go for good armor with plenty of ag. bonus the problem never comes up. and 1 more thing rogues+ the individual sword parts= sh*tty rogue. (speaking from expierience)
yeah, anyone other than the core melee classes in the game, rouge, warrior, or pally, should NOT ever roll on the swords. especially huntards. there's no stats at all, even on the epic, and huntards have range that does far more dmg than their melee does. get an idiot huntard in your group? boot em, i say.
I say to you you are the stupidest person I have ever seen, the only thing that is lacking for that sword (for hunters) is that there is no agility bonus for it, the problem with hunter weapons is that they don't get much in the damage area, for all they usually have good bonuses. This sword solves that problem AND if you actually go for good armor with plenty of ag. bonus the problem never comes up. and 1 more thing rogues+ the individual sword parts= sh*tty rogue. (speaking from expierience)
Jesus christ YOUR the stupid one, HUNTERS SHOULD NEVER MELEE, there is not a situation i can think of when a hunter SHOULD melee, thats why damage is lacking, because you simply DONT NEED damage. You need something that can actually transfer over to your ranged DPS where it actually matters
Edited, Jul 27th 2008 3:47am by EternalhateZ
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Enternalhate Lvl 70 UD Priest Baelgun (Xfer'd off garona) (DELETED THIS CHARACTER) Shadowchill Lvl 66 Gnome Warlock Azshara LeggomyagroLvl 46 Dwarf Warrior Drenden
He's right. Especialy when Ice Barbed Spear is just two levels away, this is just useless for hunters. A level twenty green axe that gives you six more agility is better than this when it comes to hunters. I can understand getting it just to get it, if the group dosent mind, but if you epip this thing and you are a hunter... then you have just killed seven hundred puppies, two hundred kittens, three nuns, and a gopher :(
Lets end this fight It doesn't have any stats for hunters but lets put them in this situation lets say your a hunter your cruising along with this sword by your side then suddenly unexpectedly 3 elites pop out at you, you don't have enough ammo and your pet can't maintain enough aggro to hold them all and if they did it'd proberly die quickly so what else you have to do your the sitting duck so... aspect of monkey and MELEE YOUR ARSE OFF personaly i like this sword and i'm a hunter and i don't give a crap if it's bad for me i'm going to try and get this sword :)
I got the first one wen i lvl 60 warrior ran me and friend through and the second wen a 70 rogue friend ran me thourgh. i had to reset the instances once, and on the secdons run, it dropped
can't wait till 50!!! (Im 48)
This is a very good sword! clearly a warrior weapon, ne hunter who rolls on the swords to make this is retarted.
jang thraze dropped before i even knew its existence...me and some pally rolled and i rolled like a 32...luckily he rolled a 12 [as u do] i giggled silently
i was pretty pleased and as soon as i saw i could get an epic from em im like "helll yerrrr" so i started doin ZF every chance i got...my mate, whos a hunter, just got Zin'rokh, destroyer of worlds and he was pretty pleased so he offered some runs to try it out lol....he shreded thru like 4 runs but it didnt drop
then a 70 mage and 70 priest offered a run or two if they got all the mageweave...me and my 2 lvl 45 mates where like "yer foshizzle manizzle" so we did it and on the second it dropped
i was prdy pleased and now gotta wait..got fiery on it AND IT BETTER SHOW cause if it does itd look radness
circusfreak-48 troll warrior-Blackrock --------- Aww sh*t bit*& someone went n' sh*% in my oven muther f*&#er
Cool sword to level with, good dps and a nice proc. Speed is a bit fast, but for for leveling it's not a big deal. See it alot more now then I used to too, alts really put in their time to get it.
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Put that sig back again and you are banned. I already removed it once.
after like 30 runs the chief dropped his sword... sul'thraze looks awesome! ret pally ftw (there was no warrior in my guild interested in it, so a guildie ran me thru ZF until i got bot parts)
man i remember when i was lvl 44 and the Jang thraze dropped at this party i was in, me and this other warrior rolled for it and i still remember the numbers that made me sh*t myself. he rolled a 98, i rolled a full 100. after that roll he logged off. i guess he must have thrown his computer at the wall
:P
anyways then i spent like 40g on runs through ZF just for Antu Sul and on the 17th run it dropped for me. luckely i was ran through so i had no competition but i was so happy i had paid my runner 30g :D.
anyway still waiting for the epic and ive heard all the good stuff about it.
Hehe in arathi basin i saw a horde hunter with it. I took out y own Sul'thraze and wiped him over the blacksmith with it :D. Silly hunters.
By the way, glowy enchants dont show on it (cos it allready has a glow, well skull, on it methinks). Was really dissapointed when i put lifestealing on it and it didnt shine purple. Oh well. Unless life stealing doesnt shine. :(
So it comes down to this: Warriors > Pally > Hunter If you aren't one of these three classes, you should never roll "need" for either sword that combines to form Sul'thraze. Go L2_not_be_a_bitch.
Very nice sword - I ran about 20 times without either dropping, then got both in the same run. Combined two levels later to form.
Overall, I find that ripsaw (+4) with a shield is a good compliment to Sul'thraze - you shouldn't use Sul'thraze for tanking, but in pvp it's amazing.
PS. This sword was made for warriors; if you say "need", you should go sit in the corner and talk to your imaginary friends (because you won't have any real ones after you roll need). If you roll for even the individual parts to make this sword, you're an ass. Here's why:
*Note Rogues, Druids, Locks, Mages, Priests, and Shammys cannot use 2-handed swords.
Rogue: Can't 2-hand, individual parts suck (comparatively) for a rogue, no +agi, no +dmg, low dps. ROGUES WHO NEED ON SUL'THRAZE PARTS ARE BASTARDS.
Hunter: Not as bad as rogues, but no +agi and any hunter who'd rely on melee has problems. HUNTERS WHO NEED SHOULD FIRST CONSULT THE PARTY WARRIOR, THEN PARTY PALLY.
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Ovelia // 70 Human Warlock Roylle // 68 Human Warrior Zephyris // 44 NE Priest
When i was level 42, after doing many SM runs in hope of getting the set, and realising plate is much better, my guild mates asked me did i want to join them in a ZF run. Anyway i joined them and Sang'thraze dropped! My guildmates let me have it and so we continued. We didnt do the chief that time.
The next time i was in ZF (tanking with sang'thraze :P )when we faught the Chief, Big bad pauldrons dropped and my guildies let me have it.
After that i was talking to a friend who was level 61 about stuff. He had gotten his epic mount and was so happy he said he help me with something, so i asked would he help me do ZF for Jang'thraze. He said sure and the night we did it, it dropped! Yay for me! But i was like level 45/6 then so i duel wielded them on my fury warrior till i got to level 50 and then combined them.
This sword is awesome. Its effect (which is similar to unholy methinks) goes off quite regularly, and has helped me often enough. Im gonna level up my enchanting and put either unholy or life stealing on it. Just gotta save up some dream dust and then grind major sta on shield.
On a side note, my warrior friend was going for this aswell. Jang'thraze dropped for him and he got it, but when the brother sword some retard rogue needed. But these swords are awesome tanking weapons and there are better weapons out there for rogues. If you are a rogue or a hunter, please let the warrior or palladiin have. Sure the hunter may want the epic, but for the love of god theres a reason why you have awesome ranged attacks. Dont vito them in favour of some dodgy close combat. Paladins, and warriors in particular are much more suited for these swords. Sadly Sang'thraze never dropped again for my friend so he vendored Jang'thraze in disgust.
And for all you warriors and pallies out there, this sword is awesome. Get it, love it.
Sang'thrase is actually a good (combat/swords) rogue weapon. The +20 parry gives more chances for riposte. Makes a great off-hand weapon though Jang'thrase (the rarer one) is definitely for the 2H classes.
As a rogue, I got this early (rolled need) and used it for many levels. Put a weapon chain on it as I recall and used it till I hit honored with HH. Of course before I rolled need I made sure there wasn't someone in the party who already had Jang'thrase. Just common sense.
Im a lvl 45 rogue, and got both of them at lvl 44, by my first 2 runs at ZF. I needed on the deflector, because mine was much worse, then the others told me at the other run to get the other one too. the worst, that i wanted to use that epic for RP-ing.. but rogues cant use two-handed sword.. - . -
I get it last night, i started to go zf since lvl 42 and i get Sang'thraze the Deflector at lvl 47, but the other part didn't wanna drop till last night, i have promissed my self that would be the last time i go zf, and at last Jang'thraze the Protector droped, i'm now a lvl 52 warrior and i think i can use it till lvl60 : )
My bro wants to know what the best enchant for sul thraze is he also said he got it on his first run eva and he just greeded them lol too bad he was only 36 at the time now hes 50 living it up and has gold so please tell me what the best Enchnat is for that is it crusader?? reply to this forum :)
So I was doing my first Zf run with a 52 and got lucky and Jang dropped, won need roll and found out about the epic. Did 2 more runs of Zf and Sang dropped. 3 runs and i have the epic weapon. Very nice for my pally.
I got the bottom half of this piece in ZF after first boss and the second half of the piece after the third boss... All in the same run... Luck I guess... Can't wait for 1/2 level for forge it into this...
i would have this by now but a stupid rogue need-rolled on jang'thraze. of all the items to roll on that i wanted (and could have put to much better use that that noob), i can't believe it was the one with a 3% drop chance. i'm buying ZF runs until i get jang. if you're a high level alliance player on Wildhammer, whisper Laihendi for an offer.
Earlier today i ran ZF for the third time and was playing with the idea that maybe a sword would drop, got to Antu'sul thinking "Lucky if it drops of him". BAM theres the sword, i asked the group and they let me have =), then we got to Chief and i thought it would never drop, BAM theres jang! i couldnt believe it, but it gets better. Ran a second time and BAM theres Sang again! then the next run after that ANOTHER sang! i passed on both of the latter ones. Im stoked, the proud new owner of a Sul'Thraze the lasher =)
It only took me 4 runs to get this sword on my Belf pala. First Jang'thraze dropped when I was being boosted at lvl 40. At that time I didn“t realize how lucky I was. so when I was lvl 45 and on my 4th run through ZF Sang'thraze dropped and I went nuts when lvl 46 warrior needed it too but I won and left group almost immediately. Cant wait to get to LVL 50!!!
i got the first sword today i was like Righteous (was the whole reason i was there) the cheef dropped the pauldrons i was like Righteous ran a second time and bam the second one dropped and i was like ok im never comming back here...! luckely i have a guild that ran my belf through for me to get it now i need to lvl 8 times to use it i can even make the sword for 3 more lvls cause oyu need to equip it. in response to Ice Barb i see them every where and i dont have the will to go through god knows how many AV's to get it at least this way i got exp ^.^
The first time i ran ZF jang'thraze dropped and a hunter need rolled against me for it.. i was pissed about that , but the next day i ran ZF again which was only my second time and both swords dropped , everyone else in my party ( me 44 warrior, 2 shaman, 1 priest 1 mage) passed each time so i got them both in the same run
ran it40 ish times for the second sword back when i was a lowbie, finally dropped and another pally needed it, but i won... beat that bastard.. seal of command with this proc ftw!
This sword is amazing. The very first time I ran through ZF the sang sword droppped and ofcourse, not knowing the power that it, and its brother weilded, i rolled greed with my other party members. Believ it or not i won that roll with a perfect 100, Luckey me! Now the second part of the magical combination of sul'thraze, Jang'thraze, has only about a 3%(roughly) drop rate. I figured it wouldn't be too much different in likelyhood of drop as the Sang'thraze sword(5% roughly) although iwas sadly mistaken. That sword caused so much hell for me, I must have run Zf over 35 times day after day hoping one day that this sword would even drop. FINALLY! FINALLY Jang'thraze dropped and I had talked it over with my group and they all were nice enough to let me have it. THANK YOU. I'll never forget how badly I was shaking once I had gotten the second sword. THANKS AGAIN *UKWYR*
Afterward...This sword is SOO much more powerful than some may think it is.....(Hint: people that cannot use this sword are all envious and angry so they just claim that it sucks) I was on Boat to Theramore and i decided to use my newly found 2h weapon by challenging a lvl 56 human warrior to a duel. I sicked my pet on him and hid in the shadows while my pet faught him untill his health was around half, then I charged in after one Aimed shot and one Arcane shot and one Cold eye casting. The duel lasted for another 10 second while I sliced him to bits with my Sul'thraze The LASHER! lvl 50 BEAT a pretty good lvl 56! WOOHOO
Ice Barbed Spear over this, if your side wins a lot of AV.... just get that one level and get IBS. who knows maybe youll join an AV and they'll be soon to killing the boss :D
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Crank dat druid boy... crank dat druid boy... Druid boy up in this ho, watch me switch forms watch me go, watch me switch forms watch me go and SUPERSPAM that hoe!
Today on 3/8/07 I got a whisp bout if I would like to come and run ZF. I thought about it for a sec looked at the clock and thought what the heck. This was my first time running ZF on my lvl 47 Belf pally so i was hoping to get some good gear. about 10 min into the run a Percisialy Calibrated Broomstick drops so that was really cool, i lost the roll of course with my bad luck. So we get to the first boss and easily beat him and what do ya know the first sword drops. I knowing what it was instantly rolled need. In my group was another Belf pally who asked to roll need and did but amazingly i won the roll by 8. Which got me smiling and wishing and praying that the next sword would drop sometime when sul' thaze would actually be of use to me. But we worked our way through the instance with ease and we finally get to the final boss. By this time i know the odds our against me but, i was really hoping for some big bad pauldrens. We drop the boss in a matter of secs and i go to see what dropped then all the sudden my jaw dropped... There on my screen was the second sword. I was speechless. I am most thankful that I had a group that automatically all passed on the sword and gave it to me. The other Belf Pally Wuzzi whom i have the upmost respect now made my day. Thank-you and good luck to everyone in their search for the swords..
i got the one from Antu'Sol my first run but i cant get the one from the chieftan. :P ive gotten that wolf helm the past few times ive gone. I NEED IT TO DROP!!!!!! (i am a warrior so i deserve it more then hunters)
So after about 15 runs through ZF i was tired of it. I had had the protecter ninja'd from me twice once by a PUG and another by guildes. I find that messed up... anyways, In hopes of grabbing the big bad pauldrens i ran one last time and low and behold both swords dropped.
Rolled on both and won! now i just need 1 more lvl so i can use this sword. My first epic.
By a huge margin (almost 10dps) it is better to have the epic.
There are two factors when determining where it is better to dual weld or use a 2 handed weapon. The buffs on the weapons, since they do stack, and the dps. The rule of thumb when comparing a 2-handed weapon with 2 1-handed weapons is they are roughly equivilant if the 2-handed weapon has 20% more dps than the two one handed weapons.
The following rules works this out single welding causes you to have a 95% hit rate dual welding causes you to have an 80% hit rate off handed weapons are scaled 50% dps
so comparing 2 10dps weapons with 1 12dps weapon
Main Hand -- 10 * .8 = 8 dps Off Hand -- 10 * .5 * .8 = 4 dps 2 handed -- 12 * .95 ~ close to 12 dps (this is rough)
the dps on dual welding the ZF swords leads to ~ 39.88dps the dps on the epic ZF sword is around 49.5 dps
plus the bonus on the epic is way better in my opinion.
Why are warriors such a whiny bunch of babys? No other class whines about weapons like a warrior. It's annoying as hell and not so tuff. I solo'd for mine. Less whineing, more grinding and get it baby warriors!
Hunter's are alot more at ease than warriors that always complain when a hunter or a rogue took a good weap get over it warriors just run the instance again sure it has like a 3% drop rate but so many other ppl have it so you will get it again. and you pallys youll get your chance to get it too the way i see it is if you have one you should get the other if no one has it then the person who is highest should get the swrod cause u need to be lvl 50 for the epic.
Right now I'm a prot pally. Did some 29 twink pvp for a while to save up on marks before respecing and leveling- now I'm not sure if I want to respec again and go do some more PvP with the combined or just stick as a tank and lvl up quickly>.<
Choices :P
About an hour ago, a shaman was running his druid alt through ZF for that leather head piece and some exp and let me tag along on my ret pally. Both of them dropped . . . I still can't believe it. My pally is just lvl47 so I still can't use it. I can't wait. The SoC procs are gonna be <3!
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THE STIG HAS BEEN UNMASKED!!!!!!!!
Combine them to make the epic two-hander
I asked if I could join to maybe have a chance to get these two weapons and then get the epic sword.. he said okey, sure.
I think I was level 40 then.
we went in.. killed first boss, and cheers, the sword. :D
Killed second boss, cheers, the sword. :)
And then I had to wait 10 levels befor I could combine them. But Dualwielding them is really sweet. Good dps and all, I had a arms specc with points in axe/polearm so I wasnt really specced sword, but I had better dps then with a polearm. =)
And as soon as I got to 50, combined and enchanted with Crusader, specced sword.
Got a imba combo before today. Was in Ungoro killing a gorilla, and like *swoosch swoosch*, I got a extra attack, and got in the chance on hit here, and even procced crusader two times. the strength buff didnt stack, but I got healedx2. 85+96 or something like that.. not much, but was sweet. :D
I'm a Lvl 47 pally right now and I'm excited to get to 50 to use this sword.
Edited, Dec 30th 2007 12:36am by Shiggie
Jesus christ YOUR the stupid one, HUNTERS SHOULD NEVER MELEE, there is not a situation i can think of when a hunter SHOULD melee, thats why damage is lacking, because you simply DONT NEED damage. You need something that can actually transfer over to your ranged DPS where it actually matters
Edited, Jul 27th 2008 3:47am by EternalhateZ
Shadowchill Lvl 66 Gnome Warlock Azshara
LeggomyagroLvl 46 Dwarf Warrior Drenden
Hunters need melee when they're PVP because huuurrrr der derrrr players ignore the pet and go straight for you.
that's when you hit them, put down the immolation trap(or ice trap depending on how you play), and proceed to kill them.
Because they never expect that a Hunter could hit them in melee. And yeah, i'm better ranged, but in PVP that doesn't matter.
I will agree that IBA is better tho. awful time on it, but better stats for hunters.
Chikapu - lv 67 Tauren Hunter ~ Haomarush
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Seargent Gogrimm 70 Orc Hunter - Sentinels (Retired untill WotlK)
Elindril 70 Blood Elf Paladin - Emerald Dream (Retired)
Randagi 52 Draenei Paladin - Moon Guard (Leveling currently, and leveling quickly.)
It doesn't have any stats for hunters but lets put them in this situation
lets say your a hunter your cruising along with this sword by your side then suddenly unexpectedly 3 elites pop out at you, you don't have enough ammo and your pet can't maintain enough aggro to hold them all and if they did it'd proberly die quickly so what else you have to do your the sitting duck so... aspect of monkey and MELEE YOUR ARSE OFF personaly i like this sword and i'm a hunter and i don't give a crap if it's bad for me i'm going to try and get this sword :)
I got the first one wen i lvl 60 warrior ran me and friend through and the second wen a 70 rogue friend ran me thourgh.
i had to reset the instances once, and on the secdons run, it dropped
can't wait till 50!!!
(Im 48)
This is a very good sword!
clearly a warrior weapon, ne hunter who rolls on the swords to make this is retarted.
jang thraze dropped before i even knew its existence...me and some pally rolled and i rolled like a 32...luckily he rolled a 12 [as u do] i giggled silently
i was pretty pleased and as soon as i saw i could get an epic from em im like "helll yerrrr" so i started doin ZF every chance i got...my mate, whos a hunter, just got Zin'rokh, destroyer of worlds and he was pretty pleased so he offered some runs to try it out lol....he shreded thru like 4 runs but it didnt drop
then a 70 mage and 70 priest offered a run or two if they got all the mageweave...me and my 2 lvl 45 mates where like "yer foshizzle manizzle" so we did it and on the second it dropped
i was prdy pleased and now gotta wait..got fiery on it AND IT BETTER SHOW cause if it does itd look radness
circusfreak-48 troll warrior-Blackrock
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Aww sh*t bit*& someone went n' sh*% in my oven muther f*&#er
ret pally ftw (there was no warrior in my guild interested in it, so a guildie ran me thru ZF until i got bot parts)
Any hunter that thinks he/she needs this is a retard. They would be better of with a green that has some stats on it. Like Agi, stam and or AP duh.
:P
anyways then i spent like 40g on runs through ZF just for Antu Sul and on the 17th run it dropped for me. luckely i was ran through so i had no competition but i was so happy i had paid my runner 30g :D.
anyway still waiting for the epic and ive heard all the good stuff about it.
Katinikth - server: Illidan (US)
lvl 48
By the way, glowy enchants dont show on it (cos it allready has a glow, well skull, on it methinks). Was really dissapointed when i put lifestealing on it and it didnt shine purple. Oh well. Unless life stealing doesnt shine. :(
Lazurian - Server: Illidan (US)
19 Blood elf rogue
KICK A$$
Lazurian - Server: Illidan
19 Blood elf rogue
KICK A$$
Warriors > Pally > Hunter
If you aren't one of these three classes, you should never roll "need" for either sword that combines to form Sul'thraze. Go L2_not_be_a_bitch.
Very nice sword - I ran about 20 times without either dropping, then got both in the same run. Combined two levels later to form.
Overall, I find that ripsaw (+4) with a shield is a good compliment to Sul'thraze - you shouldn't use Sul'thraze for tanking, but in pvp it's amazing.
PS. This sword was made for warriors; if you say "need", you should go sit in the corner and talk to your imaginary friends (because you won't have any real ones after you roll need). If you roll for even the individual parts to make this sword, you're an ass. Here's why:
*Note Rogues, Druids, Locks, Mages, Priests, and Shammys cannot use 2-handed swords.
Warriors: Two-hand, +dps, +burst damage. PERFECT.
Pally: Two-hand, +dps. DECENT.
Rogue: Can't 2-hand, individual parts suck (comparatively) for a rogue, no +agi, no +dmg, low dps. ROGUES WHO NEED ON SUL'THRAZE PARTS ARE BASTARDS.
Hunter: Not as bad as rogues, but no +agi and any hunter who'd rely on melee has problems. HUNTERS WHO NEED SHOULD FIRST CONSULT THE PARTY WARRIOR, THEN PARTY PALLY.
Roylle // 68 Human Warrior
Zephyris // 44 NE Priest
its rate bad, waste of an epic
Signeous = 70 warrior
mirras - 43 hunter
What did the great sea say to Kalimdor? I appreciate the Sediment
The next time i was in ZF (tanking with sang'thraze :P )when we faught the Chief, Big bad pauldrons dropped and my guildies let me have it.
After that i was talking to a friend who was level 61 about stuff. He had gotten his epic mount and was so happy he said he help me with something, so i asked would he help me do ZF for Jang'thraze. He said sure and the night we did it, it dropped! Yay for me! But i was like level 45/6 then so i duel wielded them on my fury warrior till i got to level 50 and then combined them.
This sword is awesome. Its effect (which is similar to unholy methinks) goes off quite regularly, and has helped me often enough. Im gonna level up my enchanting and put either unholy or life stealing on it. Just gotta save up some dream dust and then grind major sta on shield.
On a side note, my warrior friend was going for this aswell. Jang'thraze dropped for him and he got it, but when the brother sword some retard rogue needed. But these swords are awesome tanking weapons and there are better weapons out there for rogues. If you are a rogue or a hunter, please let the warrior or palladiin have. Sure the hunter may want the epic, but for the love of god theres a reason why you have awesome ranged attacks. Dont vito them in favour of some dodgy close combat. Paladins, and warriors in particular are much more suited for these swords. Sadly Sang'thraze never dropped again for my friend so he vendored Jang'thraze in disgust.
And for all you warriors and pallies out there, this sword is awesome. Get it, love it.
Edited, Jul 11th 2007 12:28pm by Ziamount
As a rogue, I got this early (rolled need) and used it for many levels. Put a weapon chain on it as I recall and used it till I hit honored with HH. Of course before I rolled need I made sure there wasn't someone in the party who already had Jang'thrase. Just common sense.
Tho Antu'Sul spares his swords everytime i get there <.<
45 pally
was so excited when it droped
and then sang'thraze yesturday
awwww crap!!! now i gotta wait till 50 to combine them!!
im only 42
It's all fun and games until the Paladins come and kick your ass!!!!!!XD
ret. pallies rule!!!!!
Well, I'm level 45...I have to wait
dude, im running ZF a lot at 41 for the exp and when these drop, im gonna need them and thank every single diety in the world!!!
the 2 swords that make it are great tanking weapons IMO
Edited, Jun 15th 2007 5:35pm by Remnas
It's all fun and games until the Paladins come and kick your ass!!!!!!XD
ret. pallies rule!!!!!
- Lvl 62 Mage
- Lvl 16 Priest
Lothar, Alliance
49 Blood Elf Pally
Edited, Apr 24th 2007 6:53pm by Manamir
Get off the horde, child.
ran a second time and bam the second one dropped and i was like ok im never comming back here...!
luckely i have a guild that ran my belf through for me to get it now i need to lvl 8 times to use it i can even make the sword for 3 more lvls cause oyu need to equip it. in response to Ice Barb i see them every where and i dont have the will to go through god knows how many AV's to get it at least this way i got exp ^.^
Rawrrior
44 Night Elf Warrior
Vek'Nilash
(-----------Hackysack 35 druid-----(feral)-------)
(-----------Warstomp 40 hunter--(Beast Mastery)--)
The very first time I ran through ZF the sang sword droppped and ofcourse, not knowing the power that it, and its brother weilded, i rolled greed with my other party members. Believ it or not i won that roll with a perfect 100, Luckey me!
Now the second part of the magical combination of sul'thraze, Jang'thraze, has only about a 3%(roughly) drop rate. I figured it wouldn't be too much different in likelyhood of drop as the Sang'thraze sword(5% roughly) although iwas sadly mistaken.
That sword caused so much hell for me, I must have run Zf over 35 times day after day hoping one day that this sword would even drop. FINALLY!
FINALLY Jang'thraze dropped and I had talked it over with my group and they all were nice enough to let me have it. THANK YOU. I'll never forget how badly I was shaking once I had gotten the second sword.
THANKS AGAIN *UKWYR*
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Afterward...This sword is SOO much more powerful than some may think it is.....(Hint: people that cannot use this sword are all envious and angry so they just claim that it sucks)
I was on Boat to Theramore and i decided to use my newly found 2h weapon by challenging a lvl 56 human warrior to a duel. I sicked my pet on him and hid in the shadows while my pet faught him untill his health was around half, then I charged in after one Aimed shot and one Arcane shot and one Cold eye casting. The duel lasted for another 10 second while I sliced him to bits with my Sul'thraze The LASHER!
lvl 50 BEAT a pretty good lvl 56! WOOHOO
70 Night Elf Hunter
Patience
Fenris
Flar lvl 44 hunter
Fenris
SOL
Druid boy up in this ho, watch me switch forms watch me go, watch me switch forms watch me go and SUPERSPAM that hoe!
Boxer
Level 47 Blood Elf
Paladin
i am a warrior based mainly on dmg, and not really speed. Pls respond with opinions. Thx
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Rolled on both and won! now i just need 1 more lvl so i can use this sword. My first epic.
Im very pleased.
There are two factors when determining where it is better to dual weld or use a 2 handed weapon. The buffs on the weapons, since they do stack, and the dps. The rule of thumb when comparing a 2-handed weapon with 2 1-handed weapons is they are roughly equivilant if the 2-handed weapon has 20% more dps than the two one handed weapons.
The following rules works this out
single welding causes you to have a 95% hit rate
dual welding causes you to have an 80% hit rate
off handed weapons are scaled 50% dps
so comparing 2 10dps weapons with 1 12dps weapon
Main Hand -- 10 * .8 = 8 dps
Off Hand -- 10 * .5 * .8 = 4 dps
2 handed -- 12 * .95 ~ close to 12 dps (this is rough)
the dps on dual welding the ZF swords leads to ~ 39.88dps
the dps on the epic ZF sword is around 49.5 dps
plus the bonus on the epic is way better in my opinion.
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Rasseim - Level 70 Troll Hunter
Sura - Level 26 Blood Elf Warlock
Dotram - Level 18 Tauren Druid
Urzal - Level 14 Undead Mage
Rastah - level 13 Blood Elf Rogue
Flar lvl 47 Hunter
Falcans lvl 18 mage
Fenris
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