any photo?

The 60 Atp passive is missing here. Used to have 45 Agi alone.

OK as stated previously you dopn't really need this pole-arm.

It's a very nice upgrade and the skills clearly point towards the hunters, but the fact remains you don't really need the skill increasment for x-bows/guns/bows.

As I'm currently have 5/8 T1 and 3/8 T2 with the Rhok'Delar bow it's needless for me to get this item at this very moment. I get from my gear and hear my words 11%, yes you hear it right 11% hit chance on my character. This includes the ZG enchants woch gives 24 RAP/1% hit/10 sta.

As said the staff is nice, but you can manage perfectly with the dw Hakkari from ZG. It gives rougly calculated 128 RAP, seeing 1 agi = 2 rap. Stat wise the pole-arm is nice to have, but I would prefer DW none the less cause it just have more beneficial. When I go into mleee I have 3 hits on a person instead of 2 hits. This using Raptor Strike and Wingclip in a combo.

For here I rest my plee.

Realyan <Knights of Steel> on Sylvana's

This is NOT a hunter weapon. Don'y deny it. You know it's true.

if you don't think that this is a hunter weapon or whatever here...
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i179/razrok/hunterweapons.jpg
this is all data collected from in game and math, it all matches up if you feel like testing it yourself so feel free to do so.

-.~ *twitch*

This is getting majorly buffed in TBC. Currently +30 agi, +60 ap, +22 sta, +9 bows/xbows/guns

Its obviously a hunter weapon >< Every guild is giving priority to hunters , at least the guilds I know.

to all the "HUNTER WEAPON!!!" people:

for once, you are correct

This could go either way. Just cause it has +skill doesnt mean its for a specific class. If your in Naxx. I wouldnt take this anyways as a hunter. A Hatchet of Sundered bone and FoF combo still beats this polearm by 6 attk power and almost 1% crit.

Everyone who says this is a hunter weapon I agree it is, but its not solely a hunter weapon. Most of the people who are calling other people noobs assume this is because it has agility and ranged skill, probably cause thier main is a level 50 that has only cleared ST. And if your a good hunter you will have +3% scope on your wep so you only need 2% hit other places making skill pretty useless anyways because of the fact that after 5% hit it doesnt count towards your shots anymore.

Although if your guild is this far and probably has cleared Aq-40 by now you will have a shot at Dark Edge of Insanity <http://thottbot.com/?s=Dark+Edge>
which is nearly as good as this polearm. (For a warrior.) 1% Crit, 70 attk power, some stm. I would say who ever has more dkp. If I was a warrior though and I still raided Naxx, I would save my dkp for the Mace of Kel'thuzad.

Anyone who continues to say this is a hunter weapon ONLY should reroll paladin and never raid again.


-Djinn, 60 Hunter Whisperwind <Ixtlan>

Think what you want, it is useful for both warriors and hunters. the stats would add about 2 crit and 220 health for a warrior, as well as the fact it has great top end damage. This alone makes it plausible for a warrior to win a roll on this.

The weapon skill is just there to make sure that hunters are at least allowed to roll on this, since on many other weapons, people are selfless jerks that do not allow hunters to roll over warriors (aka ashkandi, spinal reaper, etc)

@#%^ing idiot its a hunter weapon @#%^ +45 agi +22 stam and +4 bows cross bows and guns u silly little twerpy n0000b!!!

Good you have this now stop ninjaing Severence and Claymore of Unholy Might you losers.

In all truths, I'd go with Barb of the Sandreaver. If you're a SV Hunter with LR then by all means take this weapon, you'll get more out of it than a MM Hunter. While ranged attacks are not affected by Glancing Blows, Increased weapon skills still raises your chance to hit slightly and chance to crit by 0.04% each point. You're losing 9 stamina over gaining just 4 agility vs Barb, but at least your Raptor Strikes will be deadly. Its still good Hunter weapon, but I really wouldn't mind seeing a Warrior pick it up.

5/31/15, at least I'm still going to benefit from the 31 stamina on Barb more than this.

for one times sake: Hunter wep ffs!
if i ever see a paladin with this ill delete my account. the end.

Clearly a priest weapon

Well, isn't all it should be.. white damage is only mariginally increased from +weaponskill. We don't have glancing blows with ranged, it just adds 0.2 hit and 0.2 crit straight up.. waste of itemlevel.

Looks like a direct hunter upgrade from Barn of the Sand Riever.
4 more agility might make it a valid improvement over many 1H combos, although, I fear, 1H combinations often stolen from warriors and rogues will still be the way to go for maximum damage output. Even for Survival specced hunters.

For skill lvl below 300 - +1 to weapon increases crit rate by something very close to 0.04. If this carries into ranges about 300, which it rather likely, this weapon might be even better than it seems.

paladin weapon :O

Is that what I think it is?

Hunter weapoN!

I wonder what it looks like, PIC PLEASE!