Black Grasp of the Destroyer

Lowest Cost to Acquire: 169g 49s
Median AH Price: 600g (Details)
Merchant Sell Price: 11g 72s 76c
Merchant Buy Price: 2g 34s 55c
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Item Level: 70

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Black Grasp of the Destroyer
Binds when equipped
HandsMail
318 Armor
Requires Level 60
Equip: Increases attack power by 28. 
Equip: Increases your critical strike rating by 14. 
Equip: On successful melee or ranged attack gain 8 mana and if possible drain 8 mana from the target. 


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NameComponentsSkill
Black Grasp of the Destroyer8x Large Obsidian Shard, 24x Small Obsidian Shard, 8x Enchanted Leather, 1x Flask of Supreme Power
Cost of components: 169g 49s
Blacksmithing (300)

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ffs
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Looking to buy these on Dunemaul horde side. Might be possible through shared AH if someone from alliance side can make them.
300 BS
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can make this on gurubashi

name:Rvcruz
faction:horde

your mats:50g
300 BS
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can make this on gurubashi

name:Rvcruz
faction:horde

your mats:50g
LF crafter
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if anyone can make these on Yesra send Winterhart a tell or mail ingame thank you (alliance)
I can make these
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if you're on stormrage pst to fenriswulf
New calc for Shaman
Posted: Dec 6th 2006 1:23am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Calculation for Shaman with DW will be like this
since WF _does_ work on offhand.

Main Hand 8*((5/2,6)*1,4)+(1,4*4) = 27 mp5
Off Hand 8*((5/1,7)*1,4)+(1,4*4) = 39 mp5

= 66 mp5 or 788 mana/min
Mana :D
Posted: Nov 27th 2006 11:23am | Edited: Nov 28th 2006 2:35am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I just bought these for 250g, and slapped a +15 agility enchant on em after that. I couldnt be more satisfied with this purchase. Facts are that you gain 8 mana if you use: Auto shot, multi shot (8 for each target hit), arcane shot, aimed shot, concussive shot, scatter shot, distracting shot, tranquilizing shot, normal melee hit, wing clip, mongoose bite, counterattack or raptor strike. Basically, every shot or hit, not stings. Thats a wadda mana!
For long monotonous fights where a huntard would usually run out of mana, and then go feigning death and drinking, these are worth so much! Cause you really lose a lotta damage in those +/- 10 secs of sitting down doing nothing. With this item, the combat text just spams +8 mana non-stop.
http://ctprofiles.net/4643627

Edited, Nov 28th 2006 4:39am by Pantrassar
Craft
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Can make this Firetree - Horde send a tell to pinata.
enhancement mp5... CRAZY
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I was bored in a standby raid the other day so i wiped this math up


im ignoring miss/dodge/parry AND flurry. I am assuming they will basically even out. correct any of my math if you want but basically this is what i came up with excluding those 4 things


Basically every hit gives you 8 mana. Im going to pretend dodge miss parry does not exist atm k, k.


2.6 speed mh and 1.7 speed oh is what ill do the math with


Main Hand 8(5.0/2.6) = 15.4 mp5
Off Hand 8(5.0/1.7) = 22.5mp5
37.9 mp5 total

And that is w/o windfury and w/o stormstrike. Stormstrike is on a 10 second cooldown so add a flat 4 mp5.

So with stormstrike
41.9 mp5



To calculate windfury mp5 we're going to basically say 20% chance to add 2 hits. So 20% of your hits add an additional 16 mana. (im going to ignore offhanding windfury because im going to assume they will fix it in some form or another)

So for every 100 swings mathmatically windfury will add 40 additional hits. So we will say that windfury adds 40% more attacks.

Stormstrike can also proc windfury. With a 2.6 speed weapon it takes 260 seconds to get 100 attacks. That is 26 stormstrikes. 26 stormstrikes provides aprx 10.4 extra attacks. 40% extra attacks once again.

Actual math without miss/parry/dodge OR flurry

5 seconds to represent mp5
2.6 to represent attack speed
1.4 to represent the additional attacks windfury adds
4 mp5 from stormstrike
1.4 again to represent the amount of attacks stormstrike provides


Main Hand 8[1.4(5.0/2.6)] + 1.4(4) = 27.1 mp5
Off Hand 8(5.0/1.7) = 22.5mp5

27.1 + 22.5 = 49.6 mp5 FROM 1 PAIR OF GLOVES
Can make on Nathrezim
Posted: Oct 15th 2006 2:28pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I can make this on Nathrezim, Alliance side. Just contact Cellebris.
Can craft these on realm Twisting Nether
Posted: Oct 8th 2006 3:08pm | Edited: Oct 8th 2006 4:16pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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If you'd like to get these and you're on Twisting Nether. Please send me mail in-game. I'm Alliance side.

Teesah (same name as my character that crafts them)

Edited, Oct 8th 2006 at 4:17pm PDT by teesah
I Got a Pair!
Posted: Oct 7th 2006 7:10pm | Edited: Oct 7th 2006 7:20pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Just made a pair on my hunter(instantly got 15 agi on them), and TBH i didnt think they would be THAT good, but in MC 2day i loved them. That xtra 8 mana every time u shoot is purely amazing, i got a blastershot launcher (2.6 speed), so its like adding 16 mana regen every 5 seconds, and thats not counting multi shots/aimedshots. Yes it does proc off every multi shot arrow, its really nice, too bad it doesnt proc off volley lol.Assuming that how they figure rapid fire and quick shots is 2.6- 2.6*.3, then 1.82-1.82*.4 is 1.09, then my mana regen hits almost
    40 mana per 5 seconds
! Correct me if im wrong on that math, but IMO its worth having these on during boss fights, and long trash pulls, they get me more rap than my blood guards chain gauntlets, so i wear em all the time when raiding. Get yourself a god damn pair FFS!


Can also make these on Haltarrant(Warrior) on the server Ursin, use em on Keltarrant(Hunter)

Edited, Oct 7th 2006 at 7:21pm PDT by snwbrdnpsycho
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What is wrong with this tofu?
Dragonblight
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Edited, Oct 11th 2006 at 4:57am PDT by colaFRank
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What is wrong with this tofu?
ER Crafter
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Can craft these on Earthen Ring EU Alliance side. Bring mats and 50g fee.

Contact Grothgar in-game.
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Grothgar
lvl70 protection warrior
Lost Chapter, ER, EU
Crafting
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Crafting these for free at EU-sunstrider.. alliance side /w Arieswarrior

Also craft:
All NR gear avilable.
All Dark iron set.
Hide of the wild.
All Naxx items.
Lava belt.
Corehound boots.
Corehound belt.

and MANY more

All free if u supply mats :)
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Work on instants?
Posted: Aug 29th 2006 3:06pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Do these work on instant shots and stings, or just Auto Shot, Multi Shot, and Aimed Shot?
Work on instants?
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Yeah works on auto, multi (8 for each target), aimed, arcane, tranq, distract, scatter and concussive shot, as well as normal melee hits, counterattack, mongoose bite, wing clip and raptor strike.
Not on stings.
http://ctprofiles.net/4643627
craftiong on Steamweeled Cartel
Posted: Aug 18th 2006 7:16pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I can craft those on Steamweeled Cartel server (EU) at alliance side. /w Marquiz
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Marquiz
Dwarf Warrior lv 60
Blacksmith / Miner
Posting from Poland
I can craft Black Grasp...
Posted: Aug 15th 2006 8:14pm | Edited: Aug 15th 2006 8:16pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I can craft these. You provide mats and 100G fee.

server: Lightbringer (Alliance)
contact: Farang

Edited, Aug 15th 2006 at 8:20pm EDT by Shakakoz
i can make
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Can craft this on Twilights Hammer alliance side contact me Revor.
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Revor, The Untamed Paladin
Crafting
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Aratck on Kalecgos can make these. Just send me a whisper.
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My main can maim your main
Crafting on URSIN
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I just got the plan to make these from moam in AQ20, ill be crafting these on Ursin to whoever wants them, small crafting, i wont be a dousche about it!
o BTW my name is Haltarrant, alt is Keltarrant

Edited, Jul 18th 2006 at 10:36pm EDT by snwbrdnpsycho
Crafting on URSIN
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I can make this on the Kul Tiras server Alliance /w me if u need made.
These...
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Are an incredible piece of kit.

Each strike you deal adds 8 mana, drop a rapid fire as a hunter and laugh as your mana regens, not at the fastest pace, but it is better than nothing.

A crit, and some AP in there make these very nice for those Marksman Specced Support hunters, increasing the over all white damage they do.

Shamans as well take advantage of the melee mana regen, good for Enhancement shamans far and wide.

Now, if they only had some stamina...
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awsomeness
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heh, can also make these on aliance side malygos, whisper nyyx or fire me a mail if you're interested
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crafting
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Can craft these on Malygos, Alliance side send in game mail to Emiee
Crafting on SkullCrusher
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I can make these on Skull Crusher /w Drakthar ingame (horde)
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crafting
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whisper Rocneasta, on Zenedar horde for crafting of these beauties
Craftable on Garona
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Garona Horde I can make these(no commission charge, just bring mats for combine).

pst Kodorunner if you have mats or have any questions about it.
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shaman dps > pally dps
Posting from SoCal
gloves
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The mats don't seem too hard to get, Although as a shamen i would choose Seafury Gaunts, they have better stats, and 7 mana regen anyway (okay so thats every 5 secs) but most ench shamens DON'T have fast weapons, they have slow 2H.

For a Hunter however, i could see how this would be good.
Black Grasp of the Destroyer
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I can make these on Aleria, Alliance side.

/w Crosswielder
Able to craft
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I can craft this on Chromaggus.
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Chromaggus

Goldthorn, Lvl 60 Paladin, Master Swordsmith
Posting from Sweden
gloves
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can make these ally side mannoroth
earthen ring
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I can craft these on alliance side earthen ring

whisper me @ Morticians

your mats + Gold
s
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Got these a coupple of weeks ago on Magtheridon :)


Pm:
Fatcaesar @ Magtheriudon, Ally and i will craft them for a small amount of gold
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<Order to Chaos>
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Regen
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Think about, you're hittin' every 2.9secs with a Rhok'delar as a hunt. That are round 13/5 Mana. Just with Autoshot, then all the aimeds any maybe every single hit of a multi shot.

Then you got some serious manareg, maybe if you have enough gold to spend and you dunno what to do with it, why not try it out?
Posting from Switzerland
Crafting Price
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What would be a good price to charge for crafting these, if mats are supplied?
warlock/priest
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These are just... wow!
Eskhandar with the procc as well, flurry, windfury, 30%crit... Shamans can now be a warlock/priest \o/
PvP gloves?
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Unless you have a buttload of stamina stacked elsewhere, these are awful for PvP. Even then you'd probably kill your target before the proc made a noticeable difference.

Just as most crafted epics, in the battle of mats cost vs. usefulness, these lose horribly.
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Posting from Vancouver, WA
RE: PvP gloves?
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8x Large Obsidian Shard
24x Small Obsidian Shard
8x Enchanted Leather
1x Flask of Supreme Power

each AQ20 run till Ossirian gives you about 15-20 small shards. Large shards you can get from Moan or AQ40 mobs. So actually guild, that is doing AQ20/AQ40 on regular basis, can supply the mats for grasp or Jagged shield for 1 person every week.

It wins the battle mats cost vs. usefulness at my opinion. And Jagged shield - wins too. Especially if you want to equip newcomers fast, before they get enough DKP to gear themselves - crafted items is a good solution.
RE: PvP gloves?
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Edited, Thu May 4 05:54:41 2006
RE: PvP gloves?
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O ye of little faith.

It's not a proc, a proc is a Programmed Random OCcurance.

That's a passive meaning each hit = 8mana. As I posted before, an enhancement shaman with flurry and plenty of crit on a fast weapon can take decent advantage with it, wouldn't be bad for a hunter in the long boss fights either.
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shaman dps > pally dps
Posting from SoCal
RE: PvP gloves?
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Yep. These things would rock for any hunter that's not sitting on 8/8 DS.

Although much our our DPS is white dmg, skills add a lot, and the ability use them nearly with impunity? Kickass.
Windfury
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does it stack with windfury? for like 24 mana drained?
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Crafting
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I can craft this item for you on the alliance side of al'akir. just whisper me for crafting and price for craft.

Edited, Sun Apr 9 17:44:49 2006
nice
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enhancement shaman with flurry and alot of crit + these = nice
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shaman dps > pally dps
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pretty good
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Tho, no stats at all.

I got them today, and loved them from the beginning. Finally some gloves for alternative builds. And 8 mana is alot, if you are wielding a really fast weapon together with instant attacks. Hunter hint hint.

I agree that these are pretty useless in raids or group pvp situations. Thats open PvP/duel/farmgear :)

Edited, Sat Apr 8 12:46:05 2006
Kil'Jaeden - Horde Side
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Crafting these PvP badboys on Horde side of Kil'Jaeden.

Send an ingame mail or PST to Mirotaun.
blacksmith
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sseco on frostwolf can make it! pst
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Hint
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From a paladin to you hunters.

Judgement of Wisdom.
RE: Hint
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From a hunter to you, paladin.

Horde.
RE: Hint
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From Alliance to you, Horde.

Burning Crusade
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crap
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well, apart the 1% crit its jsut crap.
I mean 8 mana...thats nothing, so its worthless for gaining/draining.... and than u have just 1% and 28 AP left....

I would every day take the hakkar gloves over this!
Not that good
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They are not that good. Would like em on my shammy tho. Nice for pvp.. I guess... though there is 0 stats..
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RE: Not that good
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They're highly situational. As the post above says, they're not bad in PvP. I would probably use them in the mana drain fights in AQ20 / 40. Perhaps in some other situations. I'm planning on making them for my hunter, providing I can get the mats from my guild.
Posting from Somewhere over there....
RE: Not that good
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So attack power and crit aren't stats?
RE: Not that good
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they're passive effects.
LOL
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THIS IS A HUNTER WEPON!!!
LOL
y not?
Posting from Toronto,Canada
RE: LOL
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well, ur wrong, since those arent a weapon... its gloves...
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Lvl 70 Paladin/Darksorrow- Mendari
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Posting from Sweden
RE: LOL
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funny thing is, this one actually is..

Edited, Fri Mar 31 16:31:46 2006
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JESUS MITTS!
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blacksmith
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I can make this on Bleeding Hollow - alliance
Send a tell to Cica if you have got the mats!
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