Barb of the Sand Reaver
Binds when picked up
Two-HandPolearm
225 - 338 DamageSpeed 3.70
(76.1 damage per second)
+32 Agility
+31 Stamina
Requires Level 60 Equip: Increases attack power by 40.
5.96% Chance To Drop. (1,404 in 23,546) Found on 1 creatures in 1 zones.This item is found on creatures which usually require more than one group to kill. This item can only be found on specific creatures.
Blizzard Just Wants to SPELL HUNTER ALL OVER IT. Why? Check this weopon after the patch 2.01, They reduced the Agility and Added Attack power to it. Why is that? its is specifically cause hunters lost half of the AP boost from Agility, All hunter items including their Tier Armors and Pvp Armors underwent similer modifications. While weopons that were not hunter specific remained the same. You might ask why wont blizzard put "Class:Hunter" on it, its obvious. This Drops from a high end instance where so many have put so much effort in downing those bosses, so what if hunters had this weopon or better? The weopon should be disenchanted? Thats why every weopon is not desginated, so that they maximize the chance of dropping usefull loot to any class. I said it is usefull to a warrior as an upgrade IF hunters dont need it. So To all warriors that want this should shud up.... its a hunter weopon.
Soon i hope to grasp this between my green orc fist's, as we have killed fank so many times now and it ant dropped yet, i can feel it dropping in the next few weeks
just one thing, in recent patch hunters ap gained from agi was cut in half. To me is seems that asscandy or claymore of uholy might would be better then. but what do i know? im just a priest that never heals hunters. if you were plate, u get my heals. Also, while priority could possibly be given to hunters, in my experience, huntres will have more dkp than warrios b/c the amount gear warrios want for dmg/tanking/resist, and therefore will get anyways. No rogues or hunters likes warrior till there are none.
If you are a PvP hunter I can understand why do you want this polearm so much, 31 stamina would be 341 Hp points (with improved hp).... On the other hand..... As a hunter I would not be so exited about this weapon, as the CC axe (16 agi, some sta and 3/5 mp).... A Doom's Edge (16 agi, some sta and str)...would be almost the same as this wpn. Put 25 agi on this 2 handed and u will get 66 agi, put 15 agi on those 2 axes and u will get 62 agility. four agi isnt that big of an UG. Would be fun to test some raptor strikes with that weapon but crying about it being a hunter only its nonsense.
Got it yesterday. Amazind ranged DPS boost for a hunter, really. On the other hand yeah, it's good for a warrior aswell but warriors have so much optional items to bid on and hunters don't have. So when a guild comes to loot this weapon, possibly hunters will have the most enough DKP like yesterday i did.
you know what i made a mistake in what i said... i went a little overboard. wrote all that stuff when i didnt have to. im sorry... i should of kept it simple and just said YOU HUNTERS SUCK. useless all of you. u cant dps for the life of you. you dont deserve this weapon and you know it. WoW would be a little better place without u loot whores. more room for actual useful classes and ppl that dont cry about loot. u go to hell, u go to hell and you die. :P hunters this is all you do ---> qq qq qq freeze trap this b**** /angry lol
DPS is easy because my class is overpowered. Dealing with nerfs is easy because I always get them. Tanking is easy because everyone already hates me. >:(
i agree. hunters do tend to get all the good stuff. i shouldnt mention how mayn times a hunter got the sword set from zf over me. the big tank. or how many other weapons i have lost out to a hunter over the life of my warrior. plus not to mention that after 60+ almost every quest in outlands gives... hunter gear, and pally plate..i have been in outlands for 5 levels and so far i have 1 blue.. and it was from a quest. and then there is the fact that ultimately u get more stats out of 2 1handers then u would a 2 hander.. so therefore since a hunter shouldnt be in mellee range ( its not were your major dps comes from ) then leave the nice 2 handers for the big meaty basterd that keeps all those big, nasty, meanies off of ya.. peace out hommies
To Pasimus, and other idiots like him; Let me write you a small piece.
Firstly I'd like to point out that your immature and plainly idiotic view that all hunters are loot whoring non dpsing useless idiots who actually hate themselves and know they don't deserve anything is utterly ludicrous. I'm gonna go ahead and bet that you've never even been in a decent raiding guild for over a month before you got kicked. Because no guilds I know would tolerate such a childish and aggressive attitude. I say this also on the basis that you seem to have no idea of a hunter's uses.
Funny how just because a hunter took a melee from you in some lowbie instance that aq40 raiding hunters with actual skill and knowledge also fall under your little category. Funny also how 2h sword spec warriors want polearms axes and maces also. Funny how dual wielding fury warriors "need" 2handers and vice versa with 2h arms warriors taking 1handers. Same with sword/mace/dagger rogues.
Lastly, I would like to take this moment to laugh at you now, since 90% of guilds have it on hunter prio. Warriors and rogues alike have a plethora of weaponry available to them which we can't touch, and this along with Eye of Nerub is our weapon, get over it and grow the @#%^ up, and taking your retarded little hunter hatred out of our @#%^ing faces, prick. And that goes for everyone who shares the same sh*theaded opinion as him.
nicely said. i get sick to @#%^ing death of noobs who cant handle loosing an item just because it has high dps to a hunter. hunters dont really need good dps melee weapons but they need good stats and this weapon has those stats. im not saying hunters never use melee im just saying they need the stats more than warriors need the dps when they can get a 2h with the same dps but better stats for their class.
This is a hunter weapon for sure. A GOOD hunter would put this to great use. Also great for a MS warriors, they could probably destroy a hunter in dps with this tho :P. I can see maybe why a pvp pally would want this but this is mostly a hunter weapon. In a good guild they use DKP but are mainly structured around priority. So guilds doing AQ40 should definitely throw this to the hunters and just let the warriors and pallies stick to weapons that are actually meant for them.
But on another note i hope hunters lose this because 80% of hunters are idiots and are also the biggest loot whores in the game. They piss and whine about every friggin item in the game... "zomg intel, i can use that... zomg its got like 2 agi on it, its for me! zomg its a polearm! its for me!" You hunters are old news now and getting really f***ing annoying. You dont deserve this weapon at all. It should be given to a good MS warrior who knows what they are doing imo.
DPS is easy because my class is overpowered. Dealing with nerfs is easy because I always get them. Tanking is easy because everyone already hates me. >:(
you are just plain stupid if u even think about giving this to any other class before a hunter... warriors dont need agi they need AP and agi doesent give AP if u want crit u get % crit items...
DPS is easy because my class is overpowered. Dealing with nerfs is easy because I always get them. Tanking is easy because everyone already hates me. >:(
Before i start i just want to say that i have been to BWL and AQ40 so i know just a few thinks about this subject
dude are your nutz
1. 41 agi plus a 25 agi enchant for a hunter looks some think this
~132 attack power (very rough estimate of dps is 18.857) ~3.3 to crit
2. 41 agi plus a 25 agi enchant for a warrior looks some think this
~0 attack power (that is around the lofty hights of 0 dps) ~3.3 to crit
pasamis wrote:
20 agi = 1% crit for warrior its the same sh*t dude
(i dont know guys, 19dps vs 0dps... i think hunters win)
3.While you may say that hunters never use melee attacks you are wrong. We use them way more than you use a bow. Plus with a slow weapon like this we would get around 1.5k raptor strikes
FYI i have never seen a "dps warrior" out dps a hunter
You must be one of the stupiest dudes in da game when you say you never would give this to a hunter, and also by the way you spit out your aggressions. Or, maybe I'm just wrong about you because you haven't played in a decent guild or even done any end game instances. Hunters, as the rest of the classes, are needed in all big instances. I really would like to see any raid group try to down Firemaw or Chromaggus without hunters :)
And, even if 20 agi = 1% crit that doesn't mean that the stats on a weapon should be wasted that way. 20 agi = 1% crit + 40 attack power for a hunter. For me it's kinda clear who take most advantage over the polearms stats.
Then to all you hunters out there screaming over all the weapons you want and try to ninja from other classes. Stop doing that, stop getting ppl hating our class because you are retarded kids that don't wanna get dirty to get nice good gear. Myself I haven't seen any of this but sure sometimes even ppl in my guild argue about items, but then it's most over rings and trinkets that give + healing/damage to spells and there are to many classes that benefit from that.
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DPS is easy because my class is overpowered. Dealing with nerfs is easy because I always get them. Tanking is easy because everyone already hates me. >:(
Usually when hunters say "HUNTER WEAPON" Its a joke, I say it for everything, but i never mean it. This on the other hand should goto hunters and ONLY hunters, until no more need it. Just cause your a warr doesnt mean this is better for you. Go get an ashkandi if you're this far. Jeez
I would take this over the Ashkand as a Warrio just for the obvious +5 extra % crit you'd get from the polearm spec alone not too mention the 41 more agi +25 enchant i'd be sittin around 40% in zerker... but thats just my opinion; great for hunters too no doubt but to say only hunters should be aloud is dumb we have a couple warriors in the guild who are strictly just pvp and we wouldnt say oh you can only roll on swords and shield just because theyre a warrior same for hunters though we wouldn't say only they can only on axes, polearms, bows, guns etc... obviously for the ranged they get alot of priority but as far as polearm goes its just another slot for stats for most our hunters
You f**king stupid ass hunter. Lrn2read. Read my post again dumbass. Ill even quote myself to help your stupid ass understand what I said.
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So guilds doing AQ40 should definitely throw this to the hunters and just let the warriors and pallies stick to weapons that are actually meant for them.
I dont know what the f**k you're getting at. My first line I say it is a hunter weapon.
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This is a hunter weapon for sure.
As I said before this is a hunter weapon. A VERY nice hunter weapon infact. Think 3rd best in the game?? Maybe. But if you knew how to read we wouldn't have this problem. You sir are an idiot. Also that's my f**king line jackass. You maybe stole my line but you proved my point. Thanks.
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But on another note i hope hunters lose this because 80% of hunters are idiots and are also the biggest loot whores in the game.
DPS is easy because my class is overpowered. Dealing with nerfs is easy because I always get them. Tanking is easy because everyone already hates me. >:(
hey would u give an item to a dumbass even if they had priority.... we are giving this to hunters, but all im saying is u guys are idiots and dont deserve it. meh.
DPS is easy because my class is overpowered. Dealing with nerfs is easy because I always get them. Tanking is easy because everyone already hates me. >:(
DPS is easy because my class is overpowered. Dealing with nerfs is easy because I always get them. Tanking is easy because everyone already hates me. >:(
I got this beauty earlier this evening, I'm quite possibly the happiest >HUNTER< alive.
the only bad thing is, i had to pay about 3months of dkp for it... and that because a warrior that didnt actually want it wanted to see "how high he could get me" :P well well... it is worth every single dkp point you can spend on it.
Im Lightning Reflexes specced, so this gives me 76 agi, bringing my unbuffed agi up to 592 :D
Go for it, hunters!
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well if a @#%^ing warrior ore pally ore same stupid class gets to spend dkp on this i sey that hunters can get te dark edge of incanety fore ''mele'' ore same thing i am not a hunter but i can see that this is a hunter wepon i dont see why blizzard did not put class hunter on this...
I hate to burst anyones bubble, but this weapon is a "Highest-dkp-winner"'s weapon. regardless of WHAT CLASS wins it, the person with the most DKP or /roll, will get the item, wether you Like it or not. True, its better for a hunter. And true, its awesome for a warrior. But the point is, the person that wins, get it. If a warrior has a heart, or whatever class that bids on it, wants to pass to a hunter, then awesome. But if not, grats to them. This weapon is awesome regardless.
You're not going to do any bubble bursting based on your lack of understanding of how the majority of raid groups operate.
Most raid groups interested in progression will assign class priorities to every item in an instance that benefit the raid group the most by them getting it.
Most raid groups already assign Hunters as priority recipients of this weapon, because it provides hunters with the two most important stats they need, Agility and Stamina.
If you're getting this from AQ40, you'll be farming Nefarian for Askhandi - which is MUCH better than this in the hands of a warrior/paladin.
So think about what you post before you do so. Not everyone runs raid groups from a 'loot whore' perspective.
As a hunter, i'll let every warrior have askhandi before I think of going for it, if you agree to let us have this before any warriors think of getting it. Fair trade imo. This is a hunter weap first and foremost, just like askhandi is a warrior weapon first and foremost. Yes both classes are right to fight over the weapons, so lets agree to those terms. Leave each to their own, each and every warrior in your guild gets askhandi before hunters, and each and every hunter gets barb before warriors.
This Weapon is one of the Best for BOTH Hunter and Warrior. Both have the right to roll need on it.
The thing is, 41 agi translates into 82 ap, which is one of the best ratings you can get on one wep. Add 50 ap from the agi enchant and you have 132 attack power. 66 agi is just over 1.2% crit as well. Add in the increased armor as well as the 310 hp, and you are a happy, happy Hunter.
It also adds 2-4% dodge, I believe. Most likely coser to 2%. The agi will ALSO translate into MELEE ap on a hunter, which it does not for a warrior.
Because of all of this, I believe it is very well balanced between the two classes as far as need goes. If a Prot. Warrior or anyone else needed it, I would slap them hard if a Hunter or Warrior needed it as well.
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Not to mention 1 agi = 2 armor, I LIKE, YOU LIKE? Makes hunters have viable melee skillz... When we're getting messed up we move in, raptor strike with this 3.7 speed wep = $$ and then we try to run away!
any warrior who takes this from a hunter is just plain selfish. i know this is an awesome weapon for a warrior, but for a hunter this isn't just awesome, it's as good as it gets.
For raid hunters specced with Lighting Reflexes, this polearm gives a total agility of 47.15 agility.
With +25 enchantment that's a grand total of: 75.9 agility.
In addition, this weapon's top end damage is far better for Raptor Strikes, should a hunter find themselves with no other alternative but to swing a melee weapon once or twice (and it does happen, folks).
I look forward to using this weapon myself.
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Azhandris - Order of the White Tower - 60 Night Elf huntress (Feathermoon)
first of all why are u duel wieldling hakkari blade yes the power is nice if your survival spec and if your survival sped you should want a two hander is a lot stornger and if you wana duel wield something go get 2 bonescicing hackets pesonaly i would get p!$$&% if a warrior took this put 25 agility on this and it owns every thing else
I am a Hunter and wouldn't get mad at wars rolling on this. When I am in AQ40 I will have the Hakkari Blades, or BB CHT. This is barely an upgrade unless you prefer 310 hp and 3 DPS gain over 1,5%-2% critchance. Oh wait. It is not an upgrade at all.
You... are a tool. Only 1 warblade is any good for a hunter... Look at the set bonus, +6 to swords, rofl... Yeah! Great for uhh... yeah... This is EXTREMELY superior to majority of pre naxx weapons, an exception for an MM hunter would be a sillithid claw and Fang of the faceless/MAINHAND<---- Hakkari warblade, which still sucks because its a main hand and its top end damage is like 90... and its 1.7 speed
Edited, Dec 26th 2006 11:19am by medicinefreak
so ... warrs and hunters have the same right to need for this from the new patch 2.0.1
Edited, Dec 18th 2006 5:16am by JustMySelf
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On the other hand.....
As a hunter I would not be so exited about this weapon, as the CC axe (16 agi, some sta and 3/5 mp).... A Doom's Edge (16 agi, some sta and str)...would be almost the same as this wpn. Put 25 agi on this 2 handed and u will get 66 agi, put 15 agi on those 2 axes and u will get 62 agility. four agi isnt that big of an UG.
Would be fun to test some raptor strikes with that weapon but crying about it being a hunter only its nonsense.
i should of kept it simple and just said YOU HUNTERS SUCK. useless all of you. u cant dps for the life of you. you dont deserve this weapon and you know it. WoW would be a little better place without u loot whores. more room for actual useful classes and ppl that dont cry about loot. u go to hell, u go to hell and you die. :P hunters this is all you do ---> qq qq qq
freeze trap this b**** /angry
lol
DPS is easy because my class is overpowered.
Dealing with nerfs is easy because I always get them.
Tanking is easy because everyone already hates me. >:(
Firstly I'd like to point out that your immature and plainly idiotic view that all hunters are loot whoring non dpsing useless idiots who actually hate themselves and know they don't deserve anything is utterly ludicrous. I'm gonna go ahead and bet that you've never even been in a decent raiding guild for over a month before you got kicked.
Because no guilds I know would tolerate such a childish and aggressive attitude.
I say this also on the basis that you seem to have no idea of a hunter's uses.
Funny how just because a hunter took a melee from you in some lowbie instance that aq40 raiding hunters with actual skill and knowledge also fall under your little category. Funny also how 2h sword spec warriors want polearms axes and maces also. Funny how dual wielding fury warriors "need" 2handers and vice versa with 2h arms warriors taking 1handers. Same with sword/mace/dagger rogues.
Lastly, I would like to take this moment to laugh at you now, since 90% of guilds have it on hunter prio. Warriors and rogues alike have a plethora of weaponry available to them which we can't touch, and this along with Eye of Nerub is our weapon, get over it and grow the @#%^ up, and taking your retarded little hunter hatred out of our @#%^ing faces, prick. And that goes for everyone who shares the same sh*theaded opinion as him.
Flame over.
When was the last time a warrior ever out dps'd a hunter.
In a good guild they use DKP but are mainly structured around priority. So guilds doing AQ40 should definitely throw this to the hunters and just let the warriors and pallies stick to weapons that are actually meant for them.
But on another note i hope hunters lose this because 80% of hunters are idiots and are also the biggest loot whores in the game. They piss and whine about every friggin item in the game... "zomg intel, i can use that... zomg its got like 2 agi on it, its for me! zomg its a polearm! its for me!" You hunters are old news now and getting really f***ing annoying.
You dont deserve this weapon at all. It should be given to a good MS warrior who knows what they are doing imo.
DPS is easy because my class is overpowered.
Dealing with nerfs is easy because I always get them.
Tanking is easy because everyone already hates me. >:(
its the same sh*t dude
DPS is easy because my class is overpowered.
Dealing with nerfs is easy because I always get them.
Tanking is easy because everyone already hates me. >:(
dude are your nutz
1. 41 agi plus a 25 agi enchant for a hunter looks some think this
~132 attack power (very rough estimate of dps is 18.857)
~3.3 to crit
2. 41 agi plus a 25 agi enchant for a warrior looks some think this
~0 attack power (that is around the lofty hights of 0 dps)
~3.3 to crit
its the same sh*t dude
(i dont know guys, 19dps vs 0dps... i think hunters win)
3.While you may say that hunters never use melee attacks you are wrong. We use them way more than you use a bow. Plus with a slow weapon like this we would get around 1.5k raptor strikes
FYI i have never seen a "dps warrior" out dps a hunter
sorry for any misspelling ^.^
And, even if 20 agi = 1% crit that doesn't mean that the stats on a weapon should be wasted that way. 20 agi = 1% crit + 40 attack power for a hunter. For me it's kinda clear who take most advantage over the polearms stats.
Then to all you hunters out there screaming over all the weapons you want and try to ninja from other classes. Stop doing that, stop getting ppl hating our class because you are retarded kids that don't wanna get dirty to get nice good gear. Myself I haven't seen any of this but sure sometimes even ppl in my guild argue about items, but then it's most over rings and trinkets that give + healing/damage to spells and there are to many classes that benefit from that.
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Yngwie
Lvl 60 Dwarf Hunter
Angels of the North
Tyralyon Realm
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DPS is easy because my class is overpowered.
Dealing with nerfs is easy because I always get them.
Tanking is easy because everyone already hates me. >:(
You sir are an idiot.
Usually when hunters say "HUNTER WEAPON" Its a joke, I say it for everything, but i never mean it. This on the other hand should goto hunters and ONLY hunters, until no more need it. Just cause your a warr doesnt mean this is better for you. Go get an ashkandi if you're this far. Jeez
I dont know what the f**k you're getting at. My first line I say it is a hunter weapon.
As I said before this is a hunter weapon. A VERY nice hunter weapon infact. Think 3rd best in the game?? Maybe. But if you knew how to read we wouldn't have this problem. You sir are an idiot. Also that's my f**king line jackass. You maybe stole my line but you proved my point. Thanks.
Good day sir.
DPS is easy because my class is overpowered.
Dealing with nerfs is easy because I always get them.
Tanking is easy because everyone already hates me. >:(
we are giving this to hunters, but all im saying is u guys are idiots and dont deserve it. meh.
DPS is easy because my class is overpowered.
Dealing with nerfs is easy because I always get them.
Tanking is easy because everyone already hates me. >:(
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DPS is easy because my class is overpowered.
Dealing with nerfs is easy because I always get them.
Tanking is easy because everyone already hates me. >:(
the only bad thing is, i had to pay about 3months of dkp for it... and that because a warrior that didnt actually want it wanted to see "how high he could get me" :P well well... it is worth every single dkp point you can spend on it.
Im Lightning Reflexes specced, so this gives me 76 agi, bringing my unbuffed agi up to 592 :D
Go for it, hunters!
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id spend all my dkp to aquire this....
not only would it hit like a fat @#%^ but that agil and polearm spec make a good warrior a dps monster
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titel:Hunter officer
Most raid groups interested in progression will assign class priorities to every item in an instance that benefit the raid group the most by them getting it.
Most raid groups already assign Hunters as priority recipients of this weapon, because it provides hunters with the two most important stats they need, Agility and Stamina.
If you're getting this from AQ40, you'll be farming Nefarian for Askhandi - which is MUCH better than this in the hands of a warrior/paladin.
So think about what you post before you do so. Not everyone runs raid groups from a 'loot whore' perspective.
Edited, Sep 5th 2006 at 8:22am EDT by Pegasuus
The thing is, 41 agi translates into 82 ap, which is one of the best ratings you can get on one wep. Add 50 ap from the agi enchant and you have 132 attack power. 66 agi is just over 1.2% crit as well. Add in the increased armor as well as the 310 hp, and you are a happy, happy Hunter.
It also adds 2-4% dodge, I believe. Most likely coser to 2%. The agi will ALSO translate into MELEE ap on a hunter, which it does not for a warrior.
Because of all of this, I believe it is very well balanced between the two classes as far as need goes. If a Prot. Warrior or anyone else needed it, I would slap them hard if a Hunter or Warrior needed it as well.
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Edited, Aug 11th 2006 at 3:46am EDT by muzulub
With +25 enchantment that's a grand total of: 75.9 agility.
In addition, this weapon's top end damage is far better for Raptor Strikes, should a hunter find themselves with no other alternative but to swing a melee weapon once or twice (and it does happen, folks).
I look forward to using this weapon myself.
pesonaly i would get p!$$&% if a warrior took this put 25 agility on this and it owns every thing else
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