As a shadow priest with +725 damage, I can guarantee these pants are all about one thing: the damage.

Stacking STA? Sounds like some of you haven't been to Naxx much. With multiple shadowpriests in the raid (2-3) you gain ridiculous mana regen to multiple groups via both Vamp Touch and Vamp Embrace. Great for mana intensive fights such as Patchwerk or Loatheb. For those claiming that the 21 STA for a warlock is better than the damage gain for the priest translating to double or triple the HPs gained over the course of the fight with VE running on the lock aren't very good at math.

You can place multiple shadow priests in a tank group for additional regeneration that stacks with everything, useful in nearly every encounter in the game but especially so on Maexxna and Loatheb.

With multiple shadowpriests, shadowweaving builds to max much sooner, so you are not wasting attacks with low % boosts. This makes a massive difference over the course of many trash mobs as well as maintaining maximum percentage on every boss.

And in a pinch the priests can switch to a healing role.

So saying "these pants are best for a warlock" is simply short-sighted. It depends on the build and what you're going for.


A decent shadow priest (ie, one that can break 700 damage or drop down to 550-600 damage with great stats) doesn't go OOM in a minute: they downrank mind flay to the point that they can chain it infinitely. In certain situations (especially those where multiple SWP can be ticking at the same time) they dominate everyone, Thaddius for instance where my VEmbrace is healing my entire group for nearly 500hps every second while I'm sustaining 1500dps and not in any danger of aggro or running out of mana.

Even if I was running OOM, I'm basically giving the mana I'm spending to the other casters in the group. Add multiple shadow priests to a single group and you get (nearly) an infinite loop where neither run out of mana.


The only upgrades to these pants for shadow priests are those which have lesser damage with a few more stats but most importantly mana regeneration. If you are in Naxx gear you can easily stack damage and have great stats, getting away with items like End of Dreams and the AV offhand, low stat/high damage rings, and a no-longer-dropping-in-game high damage shadow wand (which still has yet to be replaced even in TBC for raw topend damage).

Raw topend shadow damage gear with no crit is tailormade for a shadow priest. So exert the eTuffGuy routine as much as you'd like, all it boils down to are people making assertions about what other people are allowed to do in order to make them seem authoritative. Rather lame.

Edited, Jan 18th 2007 2:36pm by frottybourreaux

my guild is raiding naxx (as for right now, we cleared everywing except for dk wing)and those pants are still awsome for even t3 warlocks. especially in patch 2.0, warlock dots gets a lot more spell dam bonus, you wanna stack up as much +shadow as possible, so your corruption can do uber dmg.

in today's patchwerk fight, my highest corruption tick was 500, shadowbolt hit for 2000ish (with shadoweaving, imp shadowbolt and warrior using nightfall, a 2h axe) yet my gear sucks (i have +570ish shadow dmg). i ended up #4 on the damage meter, beat mage, hunter, rogue, fury war, basically those so called"superior dps class" (if i remember right i did 201000ish dmg)

for priest, +21 stam is really for pvp only. if you're wearing gear like this and tome of shadow force, ebony flame glove, you go OOM within a minute. i'm not saying it's not good for priest or priest should just heal, but it def. fits warlock better. more +shadow means more dmg from drain life and siphon life, and warlock get healed more, so we can constantly lifetap.

unfortunately on my server, kazzak has been camped by one alliance guild (even tho we're the most naxx progressive guild, we can't take kazzak over from them) and our guild is not quite motivated to raid kazzak only for those pants, for everything else dropped off kazzak is worthless comparing to bwl and above.

My guild who farms MC, BWL some of AQ40 and a Raz in Naxx, we have 1 count them 1 shadow priest. Thats all thats needed on a raid, 1 shadow priest, he heals the warlock group with shadowweaving and increases overall shadow damage in the raid, he is more of a support class giving warlocks more firepower than out to do damage himself. He has a full set of tier 1 for when we are low on healing and he has to step out and heal. No our warlocks do not have a problem with dps, we do it very well often topping the charts, but with a shadow priest we can put out more damage. Being a warlock myself these legs would be better suited for a warlock, as a shadow priest in PvE you wouldnt need solid spell damage, They have stamina, sure everyone needs stamina right? Yes but only to an extent, a shadow priest espicially in PvE isnt going to need a bunch of stacked stamina, a warlock does stack stamina in PvE, also on these legs 64 shadow damage+, wich most PvE warlocks are specced SM/Ruin, at least MC/BWL warlocks. So you are not using your fire spells, you are using shadowbolt+DoTs to do your raid damage, these legs have more shadow damage than Nemesis Legs, so they can be better depending on your build, However if Nemesis is for set bonuses it would probably be better to chose Nem.

Also if you are a shadow priest their are a few better leggings to get for dps, WSG exalted Leggings are better for a shadow priest, you will get damage and spirit, Field Marshall/Warlord leggings if you can grind it (I know a good many guilds who have shadowpriests their shadowpriests have done pvp to get gear)Our shadow priest uses Leggings of the BlackBlizard off Ossirian, wich are much better 40 spell damage +crit and and a few stats, than this and arguable easier to get.

Killed Kazzak with 20 ppl or so, 2 of them dropped. We just /rolled for them. A lock won one and me (sp) won the other. :)

Warlock = Shadow and Fire Damage..
Shadow Priest = Shadow Damage..

I play a warlock and i'd take the Nemesis pants over these any day. And Warlocks should stop bitching about priests taking their items because Blizzard made the game WITH shadowpriests in it, aggro reduction talents in the shadow tree would not be there if for raids, etc. And When i see a fellow warlock get 650 dps constantly without getting aggro then perhaps the shadow priest dealing that amount should go holy. Btw, Priests get fade aswell..

Winning these in a early morning PuG group 10 minutes before I have to go to class, making it my first epic and outrolling my PvPer GM (shadow priest) was one of the best things ever....esepecialy since I had fallen through the world right when we pulled him and got back to my corpse seconds before he died, i only had time to rez, shadowburn, and giggle tremendously as I saw the pants of my dreams waiting for me.

(Nearly 7 months ago, but I finaly register here so I have to say something :P)

Edited, Sat May 13 02:53:24 2006

First to get them in Europe.
We scouted and killed kazzak just after servers came back after maintanence of the patch day blizzard added these to Kazzak loottable (a few other goodies like ring of spellpower, mana igniting cord has been added in the mc loottable same patch)
Also the first piece of item i spent dkp on in my guild :)
Remember another warlock saying (probably you will never take them off in your wow life)
True.
Bas - Clan Skallagrim - Brutality - Burning Blade Europe

http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?720080

Warlock Armor piece.

Warlocks have Life Tap (Stamina)
Priests have Spirit Tap (Spirit)

Warlocks get 86%*64 equals +55 dmg
Priests get 40%*64 equals +25.6 dmg

Dots benefit 100% from +damage
Warlock has 2, 3(with talents) shadow dots
Priest has 1 shadow dot

To get these you need a full raiding guild, a high end raiding guild requires that their priest are Holy specced since Priests are rare to find. This same guild requires their warlocks to be very good at dps.

The role of a Priest in MC is to heal.
The role of a Warlock in MC is to Shadowbolt, dot, and sometimes banish.

If you want these its because you want to pvp, no pve guild takes a pvp specced priest, you will have to get in a pvp guild, wich wont be doing pvp stuff like killing Lord Kazzak, so that leaves you with your pvp set.

Wanna be a dps class, roll a mage, rogue, warlock, hunter.

If you still feel the need to get these, good luck with your guild being healed by shamans and druids only (Not saying that they are not good healers), but 1 word: Power Shield.

So, when you turn into that ugly blump of shadow you loose your brain? Is that it?
Thoose pants are CLEARLY made for warlocks, and sure.. shadow priests may roll for 'em if it's okay with the warlocks.
END OF STORY! /sigh

Very nice priest leggings, i would love to have those mostly for pvp but also for pve and raiding, For people who say shadow priest dont belong in raiding are right for the most part, but it is always good to have a token shadow priest go with the raids, if you know how to conserve mana and not throw a mindblast everytime it is up that is.... anyways just saying m thoghts and those should deffenitly have no preference one way or the other for priests and Locks to get these pants, as long as they go to good use.And for any person who think shadow priests are so gimp and suck... the name is Nonnel im on whisperwind come meet me outside of Org for a duel and then will talk after that.

High end shadow priests really shouldn't roll on these. Being a priest, stamina isn't nearly as important as spirit and intellect, but for a lock it is, due to the magic of lifetapping. Dzaal is totall right.

To say that only warlocks should get priority on these pants is ridiculous. What are you trying to say? No other class needs stamina except warlocks? Or is it just a case of loot envy and ignorance? Shadow priests should have as much priority on these as warlocks, and if I have the DKP for them they are mine. If the warlocks want to QQ about it, they should complain to blizzard to make these class specific. Go get your Nemesis and shut up.

1st off Warlocks should get absolute priority over these pants, they're made for warlocks as they have stamina on them.
If all locks in the raid have them priest ofc should get them too.
Seriusly, it's like robe of the void, for priests it would had diffrent stats as mana regen, spirit and intelect.

GG
A holy priest rolled on these and beat me :(
they gave it to him...............

Buff warlocks

Whoa, I want these so badly. Too bad that we don't have any experience with Kazzak on Horde side of my server :(

Got em today from Lord K. Hoping for blizz to put in robe equivalent hehe.

Kaverak, you will most probably see them on some priest claiming "I am a shadow priest", rather than one of us...

Although I would nerf us for sure, 64 is plain godly.

nerf warlocks