That fine looking hottie is keeping fans of the Thunderfury full of faith. She just recently solo-tanked all three bosses of Mechanar on Heroic... at the same time, with TF. If you're a warrior in TBC, Thunderfury might be trash. But if you're a paladin, Thunderfury means you can just screw all the +magic dmg gear and go full out stamina/defense.
lol my guild is going to run MC over and over (i know about the reset, dont say nub) till i get my halves, thengo to BWL to get my ore/bars (yeah i know about MC'ing the goblins) then kill Rag for my essence and thunderaan for my turn in for sword, might take a while, but its still a good OH, im using Spiteblade MH and with this as my OH, both will have mongoose, ill be looking like a frickin monster
if u scroll up a little farther u'd see an updated tooltip were it says one-handed, because they removed the main hand only requirement several patches ago
im going to be lvl 60 by the end of the week... and im going to devote 75% of my time to trying to get this... i dont have a great guild to do this in since we only have 1 70 and 4-5 over 60... if anyone has room in their raids on azjol-nerub, send a message to gralas (human prot pally) ill pay well and any generosity will not be taken without rewards :)... also to everyone who says prot pallys shouldnt have this... id like to see a rogue survive with this lol id say prot warrior first then prot pally then fury warrior... anyone else would die if they use it lol
This sword will kill me ... i've been farming all the mc timers for one year and a half and still the right link didn't drop. I've had all the materials (elementium bars/essence of ragnaros/and the left link) but still no luck. I'm starting to think that my char is bugged and that the link will never drop. :(
remember seven wonders of the world, guys? who cares that it is no chance to live in Pyramids? who cares that Statue of Freedom too old? who care that Sagrada Familia or Coliseum not complete or a bit destroyed? who cares about Everest not so high like Olympus on Mars? Pyramids are legend of our world Everest not most hard now, you can use hovercraft (or helicopter if you never been in 30th century:) ) to get over it
some things will be legendary forever. even nuclear bomb is very effective, AK-47 4ever
I just put a mongoose enchant on mine! and guess what! An even more 'Thunderfurious' Thunderfury! You would have thing that since TF is already 'sparkling' any enchant put on it wouldn't show any change but mongoose add even more Bling Bling to my pimp weapon!
Let's face it WoW is all about look! and nothing look more pimp then Tauren Warrior duel wielding Spiteblade(MH) with Thunderfury(OH) with mongoose on both :)
What this weapon is intended for now after BC is actually quite simple.
Warriors -Protection -Fury
Paladins -Protection
Rouges no longer need as of all the gladiator stuff, hunters....god invented guns and big pets for a reason, arms warriors your too busy with your big fancy swords, ret and holy comon now two handed is the way to go xD.
Another fact was after reading after patch history i have come to find it was not nerfed unless there was something i missed.
Yes threat generated went down, yes it became one handed (not really a nerf lol) but truely i think the nerf was an illusion created by the expansion, with all these new weapons it would make thunderfury seem useless but in truth it is not.
The proc effect is from 20-25% chance to activate so that means 1/5 or 1/4 swings will generate its proc (statistic wise) and that means well in a Prot pally hands we can utterly slow them down, give them massive damage on top of other things as well. Combining with Crusader Seal we will attack faster meaning proc will trigger more.
Fury, well of course there may be better weapons for you guys of course with all this gladiator set stuff but for protection pallies i see nothing wrong with it but then again that could be my bias kicking in.
This weapon is virtually useless to hunters, for any hunters who wasted vauble time and mountains of gold trying to aquire this weapon, well good for you, but no were near being worth to use for a hunter, and hunters dont generally melee. maybe in pvp once or twice in a round if they have to but for the most part, hunters, dont waste any time trying to get this for yourself because this is meant for TANKING
regardless of who has it, its @#%^ing tight, and it still turns heads and makes people say wow. "or any hunters who wasted vauble time ".. lol its safe to assume that hunters who got thunderfury got it before BC, so really what could they have been doing with their time that was more "valuable". getting cooler sh*t? oh wait... it doesnt get cooler than thunderfury.
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I agree that it's a good sword. But, it's not THE best sword anymore. Infact it's less powerful since the BC pack!. The proc alone is weaker and doesn't even proc as much. I have said this to many people who are noob enough to still use the sword. Yes, it can still hold it's own. but there are much better weapons in the game. I'm don;t care if your the #1 warrior in the game. Thunderfury sucks compared to Kings Defender and other blade you can get from Kara and Gruuls lair. It was funny to hear a person yell at me saying I'm retarted for say Thunderfury wasn't good anymore. But it's fact. The proc has been shot down by 20% and the effect of the proc isn't even NEARLY as powerful as it was. So my thought stands. If you don;t respect about what I think then you need to stop playing the game for more than 5 hours a day and get a real life.
Just like to say that, I already have all the mats for this weapon. except Essence of Fire Lord. The only problem is finding a raid group willing to run Ragnoros. Everyone i ask says no one will run that anymore. -_-
Great, so close, but then so far far away...DAMN YOU RAGNOROS!! YOU CONTINUE TO BE A THORN IN MY SIDE!!
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Though this sword isn't as amazing as before for tanking, it is still a decent competitor. It's proc, though generating far less agro then before is still useful in raids, thanks to the 20% attack speed decrease. It's hard to call it the best now, with the new weapons in the expansion, but it can still hold its own.
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God this thing is annoying in instances. All the mobs are surrounded by black dust so you can't see them. I'm sure it's a great blade, but put it away in instances please.
this sword got roughly nerfed at patch 2.1.x the chain lighting proc generates far less aggro than before, and so renders it quite useless for tanking now...
I still use my Thunderfury as I find that even after the nerf it still generates more aggro, depending on how much it procs, than the Thrallmar/Honor Hold exalted tanking weapon which is a 79 dps weapon. The edge is very marginal but it is there not to mention that the proc will still jump to targets that are sheeped, shackled, or trapped and generate a small amount of threat to those targets. Usually on a fight such as Moroes I try to tank him hear the shackled mobs as the proc will usually give me just enough aggro so that if the shackle breaks early they'll come running for me instead of the healers.
Also, you can't forget the 20% reduced attack speed debuff. Sure, you can spec 3 points into improved thunderclap for the same effect but having this sword frees up those 3 points to be spent elsewhere. Again, another minor difference but one worth noting. This sword was nerfed but in my mind it is still a great tanking weapon on up through karazhan, gruul, and mag. Once you get into SSC then you're going to find better weapons to use. But, until that time, I'll continue to use my baby that I worked damn hard for.
I keep seeing these posts saying how many better weapons there are for a rogue than this, and I'm not saying there aren't, since I haven't gone through all the different weapons available, but would someone mind posting some links to so of these static drops or quest rewards that would serve as a better off-hand sword?
Took me 2 years of playing WoW to finally finish making this sword. Innumerable repair bills, Geddon kills, and wipes, not to mention all the farming I did for the bars. Sword cost me well over 5 thousand gold, which took several months of farming in between raids (no pvp /wrist), but it was well worth it. I replaced my Edge of Chaos (I lost multiple Castigator/Servo/Sundered Bone bids in the mean time) with it, and my DPS jumped as much as 50. Whirlwind with it is a @#%^ing joke, but that is to be expected; I raid in Battle Stance these days, as 3% crit isn't worth giving up Overpower. Enclosed in my signature are links to my raiding and pvp gear sets, and you can find a video of me PvPing with TF on Google Videos (lost that link a lon g time ago, sorry =/) and THERE I stay in Zerker stance, simply because in PVP I need the crit more than in endgame. I was 10% away from a Claw Of The Frost Wyrm at the time of Xpac, when I get some decent lvl 70 gear I'll update my sig, though most of my gear has yet to be replaced [Buying an epic flying mount at level 60=priceless (Thunderfury=awesome farming weapon when you couple it with the Maelstrom darkmoon card)]. Good luck to all of you who 10-man MC in Xpac, for this thing, it's awesome =D
By the time you get into AQ40/Naxx, Mortal Strike is obsolete, and Fury excels at everything. I have been every concievable spec there is for a warrior, and Fury is the only way to go. Love to all the members of <Ownage Factory> who have helped me over the last two years, I love you guys!
Blizzard, give us an extremely long (6 months in length preferably) and annoying upgrade quest involving slaying the hardest bosses in TBC 276 times for items with a <1% drop chances, to transform this into something lvl 70-ish.
Also, make it conjure food on a 1 minute cooldown as a perk.
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"Rend adds about 8 dps if you spec imp rend. Therefore, if you put it on 100 mobs, thats an additional 800 dps. HOW IS 800 extra DPS BAD?"
Hmm i just got my Thunderfury and its pure ownage people in arena just got so distracted when the Cyclone hits them. Procs very often and yes I'm a hunter and i do like this wep invested 3k gold in it guild helped me alot also. Many thanks!
I know it suits a warrior or a rouge and they get full advantage of it! But its also good at a hunter if you can give up some ranged attack power +agi bonus from other weps!
Well unless you already have Thunderfury, you might as well forgot about it now that TBC is out. No guilds are going to raid those old instances for just one person to get it. Unless your guild really loves you or enjoys doing MC/BWL, even though they could be doing the new raid instances...
I can't believe people are still QQ'ing about this sword. Have you never been in a guild where the MT actually had Tfury? I've seen a guild with 7. Every single one of the people who had it was a tank. (With the exception of 1, who was a rogue). There's a reason the weapon proc slows down enemy attack speed, and I'll tell you this, its not so the rogue has to dodge less. End of Story, Tanking weapon. Level 70 Prot warriors still prefer Tfury over any other tanking weapon, no matter what its top end dmg is, because the procc holds a hell of alot more aggro than anyone thinks it does, and ontop of that, it procs on enemies who are CC'd, and doesn't break CC. As in, you sheep 2 targets and seduce 2, the tank's proc will hit the guy he's tanking, and the 4 others next to him, thus gaining aggro on 5 mobs at once, without breaking CC. And like I said, its a damn good amount of aggro for it being a simple weapon proc.
Tanking weapon mainly, so shut it rogues, you get plenty of sh*t thats much better, you just want it because its orange. As for pallies, well, I haven't seen much pally action before TBC, but as of 70, i've seen pallies tank as well as warriors, so in what i've seen, they're a viable player to recieve one, as long as they're protection specc (or whatever its called for pallies)
This comes from a priest who's seen just about every instance out there (including naxx). Pre-TBC
Yeah, it doesn't kill CC because it does not do damage to the creature, it just places the nature debuff on them, it does not generate any real threat that I can tell.
Yes, it may be a quest item, but in order to complete the quest you have to do pre-tbc raids in order to get the very rare bindings to drop. The bindings are then used in the quest to craft this sword.
Everyone knows that Thunderfury is an amazing Tanking sword. The Debuff lowers NR and decreases attack speed. In essence it lets allows the healers to heal 20% less ( = less mana usage) on the MT. People dont realize since more then 50% of this weapons DPS is derived from the proc and Nature damage it is a rare sword that DOESN"T depend on Gear to be useful. That means when a rogue upgrades his attack power/agi/%crit and strength, 50% of that melee dps stats is not effected by the usefulness of Thunderfury. Now take a tanks gears into consideration. He gets tier 1 and upgrades to tier 2. ALL the tanks gears are damage reduction and higher HP based. Guess what... since 50% of the sword's damage comes from the proc that means the warrior doesn't have to have uber DPS stats to make good use of the sword becuase its Proc isn't based on physical DPS based. This doesn't mean a rogue can't make good use of this sword. It just means that Rogues can get swords with higher Top end damage that are more effective as they get better gear. Tanking warriors don't focus on these stats so a sword that derives 50% of its damage through a proc is an ideal tanking sword. This explaination should let Guild leaders know how to distribute the bindings.
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Not even close to 50% of this weapons dps comes form the proc. 25% would be pushing it.
Even still, as you gear gets better the DPS contribution from the proc gets less and less (Proc will always do the same damage, while the damage output from getting better gear will increase).
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Well maybe for a rogue it isnt "GODLY" but for a tank it is gold. Its aoe pulls VERY good aggro and its fast as hell Not to mention its slow effect and the extra nature damage which can give extra threat. Tanks dont need as much power as rogues buddy. ONly prob with it would have to be in sheep fights, but otherwise its absolutley insane for tanking. It procs....ALOT
THIS IS NOT a godly weapon at all, in fact it shouldnt even be legendary, it should be rare or epic, this thing is not at all good, there are BWL and AQ wepons better than this POS, if i were you, i wouldnt waste my DKP on the mats for this, totally not worth it.
There are weapons with more "White" Top end damages. If you are Narrow minded Thunderfury may seem like its not worth the effort. There are specs and classes that does make this weapon a POS. But any class with instant attacks or "free" attacks will destroy ANY BWL or even Naxx weapons. Yes even 2handers. Go watch a video if you can't commit to a 4.5k gold - 10k gold weapon. Yes its more involved then Free loading off your guild for a Single weapon drop. This game can be for what ever reason. Some ppl actually enjoy the game for its PvE purposes. Some other ppl find it really annoying. This weapon is for those that like making HUGE commitments to get a Godly piece of gear. For anyone that has it knows that the AoE proc does not aggro aoe. Its a debuff, it will aggro as much as a warlock debuffing a target for curse of elements, or a priest casting mindvision. It only blasts the primary target for 300+. Now go watch a video with a warrior spamming Whirlwind and Cleave where they are Primary procing 2-4 mobs every swing. Then and only then will you see the true Legendary use of this weapon. The only other class that can compare to this Legendary sight is a rogue spamming Sinister strike and slice and dice. Both classes do very well with it. You don't have to believe. Stick to saying things you know else it makes you look like an idiot. Unless that is your goal in life stop communicating with the human race. If it is your goal in life, you have achieved it. Now move on to a new goal.
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There are weapons with more "White" Top end damages. If you are Narrow minded Thunderfury may seem like its not worth the effort. There are specs and classes that does make this weapon a POS. But any class with instant attacks or "free" attacks will destroy ANY BWL or even Naxx weapons. Yes even 2handers. Go watch a video if you can't commit to a 4.5k gold - 10k gold weapon. Yes its more involved then Free loading off your guild for a Single weapon drop. This game can be for what ever reason. Some ppl actually enjoy the game for its PvE purposes. Some other ppl find it really annoying. This weapon is for those that like making HUGE commitments to get a Godly piece of gear. For anyone that has it knows that the AoE proc does not aggro aoe. Its a debuff, it will aggro as much as a warlock debuffing a target for curse of elements, or a priest casting mindvision. It only blasts the primary target for 300+. Now go watch a video with a warrior spamming Whirlwind and Cleave where they are Primary procing 2-4 mobs every swing. Then and only then will you see the true Legendary use of this weapon. The only other class that can compare to this Legendary sight is a rogue spamming Sinister strike and slice and dice. Both classes do very well with it. You don't have to believe. Just don't say things you have you "NO CLUE" about. It makes you look like an idiot. Unless that is your goal in life stop communicating with the human race. If it is your goal in life, you have achieved it. Now move on to a new goal.
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I just saw a video of a Gnome Rogue duel-wielding(!!!) this! He soloed Thrall and some of his guards and he owned him! I couldn't believe my eyes.
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If all you guys knew your stuff about private servers at least, you would know this is one... As previously stated...
Weapon = unique Thrall = not killable in 3 hits... Not in normal WoW, in exception to a GM or glitch perhaps. Gnomes = can't be paladins.
Isn't the hall in which Thrall in a little more filled with Korkron elites? And shouldn't he aggro a little more when he runs in? And, the portal in the background? It's definitely on a private server, I'd know...
Also, take note that after the mobs swing, their 'emote' goes back to normal standing instead of the ready battle position... Anyone need anymore proof?
hmm... where to start? 1 this vid is made on a private server wich apperntly is very easy to make 2 the title it says Thrall(not real) can it be anymore obvious?? 3 Thrall died after 3 hits o0 the boss that took 3 raids to kill dies in 3hits? 4 im not sure about this 1 but can pala dualwield?
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warriors are rogues in plate... hunter/shaman are rogue in mail... are u seeing a patern? i do! rogues own :P
I thought I would do u guys the favor of doing the Actual DPS of this freakin weapon. Which I am currently making :). This thing will still out DPS TBC swords without a Rumored "Legendary quest upgrade".
Ok the actual White damage on this thing is 41.84
((44+115)/2)/1.9 = 41.84DPS
Ok now I watched the low and top end damage on just the little nature damage that is "standard" to the weapon. It was hitting as low as 16 and as much as 94 thru the debuff.
((16+94)/2)/1.9 = 28.94DPS
OK now we getting some where! 41.84+ 28.94 = 70.78DPS! THAT IS THE ACTUAL DPS of the weapon with the WHITE damage + the "Standard" nature damage factoring the averaage damage with and without the Debuff :)
THUNDERFURY HAS an Actual <<< 70.78DPS >>>
We aint done yet! Now we gotta add the proc damage. I watched the video again ( I used 135k warrior video, its on the Neff fight :) ) It had as low as 300 damage and as max top end with the debuff (lowers Nature resists by 25) of 450.
((300+450)/2)/1.9 = 197.36DPS
Ok now we gotta factor the Proc rate. Well I have heard as high as 33%, that seems high, so im going to do 33% and 10% so we got an extreme and a minimium.
OMGZ the LOWEST DPS is <<< 90.51DPS >>> ! That beats TBC swords :P. GG TBC:P Now that it is confirmed that its a 20% proc rate the DPS of the weapon is 110DPS.
Edited, Jul 25th 2007 1:59pm by Ruelin
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Now lets get a comparable damage range of this Legendary weapon
Ok so u know the min damage on a swing is: 60
44+16= 60
Top end: 659
115+94+450 = 659
oOMGz the damage range of this "Obsolete" TBC weapon is 60-659!
Yeah your all right. It shouldn't be a legendary and NOBODY should ever strive to get it. Thats why I dont listen to the Peanut Gallery and I figure things out for myself :PPP
As far as the Warrior vs Rogue weapon. We all know it works well for both. So give it a rest. Rogues say they got more instant attack spammage and Slice and Dice. Well Warriors got Cleave/Whirwind, lets see u catch up now Rogues LOL. Oh yeah there is something called Flurry that is a passive Slice and dice so to speak. PASSIVE! Don't have to do a damn thing but crit! SO what is the conclusion. USE THIS FORUM for HELPFUL info! Like I did! And its good for players that are GOOD, not idiots that sit in IF dreaming of even comprending how to use such a tool... cuase yeah thats right... its JUST a tool to a means to and End.... End of story... Thank you Ladies... You will be hearing from me again :)
P.S. With this kind of damage range, no 1hander or 2hander has this high of a range. So this sword should NEVER been in your offhand. 659 and that value can crit... why would you offhand that kind of top end damage range... GG Blizzard for tempting Idiots to offhand thee HIGHEST Top End weapon in game. Yes I realize it does "always" happen. There is a consistancy issue. But putting it in your offhand for a +10% less hit and 50% decrese damage is a HORRIBLE idea. To me its like The Untamed Blade. When that 300str procs its the Hardest hitting weapon for 8secs at a time... Do the math... I did... Don't offhand a godly weapon.
Edited, Dec 28th 2006 4:00am by Ruelin
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haven't done the math, but i agree with most everything else. amen brother..
oh yeah and one more thing.. about what you said about noobs that dont have gear.. with the new patch.. there are now a scary amount of noobs with gear : \
Okay, you're a rogue. It's got good dps, it's 9 foot long, and has a paragraph proc. Oh, and an orange name. You want it SOOOOO bad! The girls will want to be with you and the guys will want to be you.
Yes. It is awesome. But is it worth it...?
It took me 8 months, 2 guilds, and 10k gold. But the price you pay doesnt end there, and Im not talking about the 4.5g repair bills on it alone either.
For every 1 compliment you get, you get 3 counts of harrassment, and there are ALOT of compliments. You can't walk anywhere with it equipped without starting a conversation, or more likely an argument exactly like the ones here. But onto the damage.
In 5 man dungeons, solo, and pvp, you will own. It will be as good as you expect. In the mainhand I get around 9 procs per minute over long term and I slice and dice fairly frequently. In PVP it's total confusion with lightning and tornadoes hitting all thier d00dz. However, in raids, I don't notice NEARLY (repeat NEARLY) the dps boost I had expected. Perhaps an extra 20 dps on a rough guess. But while I was thinking about how expensive a moderate dps boost in a raid that was, I realized something.
TF's main benefit is not damage. TF's benefit is the proc. Not the 300 (I've got a 495 max) damage. It's the -25% attack speed. On a raid boss, that's 25% less physical damage. So, obviously, it does benefit the tank, but also the tanks healers, which leaves more mana for them to heal everyone else. It doesn't matter who has the sword in the raid as far as SOMEONE has it.
The argument about causing way too much aggro gain is like most of the arguments about Thunderfury. They're made by people who haven't used one. I've noticed very little increase in nasty aggro situations and certainly nothing uncontrollable.
In regards to the Off Hand/Main Hand argument. Anything short of a Grand Marshal's sword, Main hand it. Period. Don't care about your math, Ive tested it long term.
So, in conclusion: Guilds should open up to the idea of a rogue having it. I'd say it's benefitted my guild just as much as if the tank had gotten it and Im sure they'd agree.
If I could go back and had the choice to bid on that first binding again, would I? No. I would pass on it. The effort put in is not worth the end result, in my opinion.
My guild has been doing Molten Core for 7 months now, the binding dropped off of Baron Geddon on 10/11/06, the other binding dropped off of Garr on 11/25/06. Between that time, I collected all the mats necessary for the Thunderfury. Let me tell you, 4600 gold roughly in mats and services, but well worth it. Even with the Burning Crusade right around the corner, I would still do it again if given the chance. This sword is nothing but godly. To see a screen full of 300 damage when doing Whirlwind is just plain awesome.
I will never get tired of the thundering sound it makes when it procs. ^_^
Yeah I suppose that may be true, but then again I have Thunderfury, do you?
In any event, don't care about your opinion on Thunderfury not being worth a cent post 2.0. Obviously, you haven't had any first hand knowledge using the weapon yourself. I am glad that in the long run, it makes tanking bosses that much easier and going through instances that much quicker. I am also relieved that, by your own admission, that Thunderfury is as good as the gear you had mentioned, considering I do not have those items as of yet, suggesting that most likely I do just as well in those areas you had mentioned.
Anyway, grats to all in getting the Thunderfury. In my opinion, it will contimue to be a viable weapon come 2.0.
Yeah, it is a very nice weapon. Unfortunately, he's right - level 63-4 epics and level 66-7 rares are going to be better than this. Level 70 greens might be as good as it.
It's a good conversation piece, but don't try to keep using it, because (though I don't think 2.0 made it obsolete) it will be far from the best item available, when BC launches.
I have done the math and no this weapon is still better then the very best crafted lvl 70 epics. Its becuase of the proc. It acutally has a HIGHER top end damage out of all the 1hander and 2handers in game when it procs. Think of htis thing a 1handed hulk version of Untamed blade. Untamed hits harder then Ashcandi for 8 secs at a time. BAck to Thunderfury, they should have NEVER made it an offhand weapon. Any rogue that offhands this thing is sadly mis using it. Yes thier WHITE damage will be less then say a GM longsword. But the nature damage FAR out damages the white damage of any sword, even a Grissel, Ruin of Dawn. So if you took the time of getting this weapon, why offhand it for MUCH less procs and in case u didn't know ur offhand misses 15% unless ur smart enough to collect %hit over %crit. But that is another ball of wax, yes %hit owns %crit for Dual wielders. I dont make this stuff up, its called combat stats :) Oh well I should just face the reality that most ppl that play this game dont understand the game mechanics but HOPEFULLY the ppl that wield weapons such as this knows better. And all you retards that dont swing this sword, We dont wanna hear about how this sword does AoE aggro and it pulls aggro off Maintanks, you dont know how the proc works and you dont know how aggro/timing works, and most definately dont know how to lower your aggro else you wound already understand those are NOT valid concerns to a GOOD player that PAYS ATTENTION TO DETAIL.
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Just a little fyi, rumor has it you will be able to upgrade the legendaries, due to the expensive price tag that comes with making them. You will be able to do a quest in TBC that will upgrade the weapons to keep them worth having.
sad, that thunderfury isn´t worth a cent anymore with patch 2.0 t2.5 conqueror full and skilled thunderclap > thunderfury and widow´s remorse is by far better that tf, except for the slow, which can be replaced by a warri with tc
I just have one question. Can this item be Master looted or do we have to risk it being ninjaed by greed and need. I have seen videos of this item being ninjaed and we have a guild on our server that needed to kill Thunderfury twice cause they had ML on the first attempt so they couldnt loot it. any ideas guys?
LOL even a hunter would own melee with this, and yes we can use it, and no i would not bid on it. I'm not saying it's a hunter weapon, just saying that anyone that CAN use this would smash faces.
http://www.wowitemcreator.com/view/223826/The_Hand_of_God.html
allakhazam get some brains and change it plz
Now have a level 255 Admin on a personal private server, do not ask it is not public (yet?)
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So then I said, If you have a ship big enough to carry a tank why not put guns on the ship?
http://www.wowitemcreator.com/view/70276/Flamefury_Blessed_Blade_of_the_Pyrogodess.html
I wish i had this sword so much :)
Level 22 Human Warlock Sentinels Henzzi
Level 22 Troll hunter Sentinels Shiz
Level 22 BE paladin Sentinels Jinthalor
Guild Frenezy
Protection War
who cares that it is no chance to live in Pyramids?
who cares that Statue of Freedom too old?
who care that Sagrada Familia or Coliseum not complete or a bit destroyed?
who cares about Everest not so high like Olympus on Mars?
Pyramids are legend of our world
Everest not most hard now, you can use hovercraft (or helicopter if you never been in 30th century:) ) to get over it
some things will be legendary forever.
even nuclear bomb is very effective, AK-47 4ever
got teh point o.O ?
got teh point o.O ?
Um, no. Having a point is a prerequisite for other people to get the point.
An even more 'Thunderfurious' Thunderfury!
You would have thing that since TF is already 'sparkling' any enchant put on it wouldn't show any change but mongoose add even more Bling Bling to my pimp weapon!
Let's face it WoW is all about look! and nothing look more pimp then Tauren Warrior duel wielding Spiteblade(MH) with Thunderfury(OH) with mongoose on both :)
Warriors
-Protection
-Fury
Paladins
-Protection
Rouges no longer need as of all the gladiator stuff, hunters....god invented guns and big pets for a reason, arms warriors your too busy with your big fancy swords, ret and holy comon now two handed is the way to go xD.
Another fact was after reading after patch history i have come to find it was not nerfed unless there was something i missed.
Yes threat generated went down, yes it became one handed (not really a nerf lol) but truely i think the nerf was an illusion created by the expansion, with all these new weapons it would make thunderfury seem useless but in truth it is not.
The proc effect is from 20-25% chance to activate so that means 1/5 or 1/4 swings will generate its proc (statistic wise) and that means well in a Prot pally hands we can utterly slow them down, give them massive damage on top of other things as well. Combining with Crusader Seal we will attack faster meaning proc will trigger more.
Fury, well of course there may be better weapons for you guys of course with all this gladiator set stuff but for protection pallies i see nothing wrong with it but then again that could be my bias kicking in.
Duffo, 70 human rogue (malygos)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_mDsCUOGCS0&mode=related&search=
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Accel - tauren warrior
Draenoria - Orc Shaman
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Edited, May 8th 2007 1:00am by KingDhaos
Great, so close, but then so far far away...DAMN YOU RAGNOROS!! YOU CONTINUE TO BE A THORN IN MY SIDE!!
Djiinn - 70 Undead Rogue
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Undermine&n=Djiinn
Ayadwarf-66 warrior
Yoeko - Tauren Warrior
70 Season of kicking ass
WOW THATS REAL SAD, REAL SAD...
WELL IF ANYONE BOTHERS I HAVE COUPLE O' GUYS...
PWNANATOR LVL 13 *TWINKED* (BIATCH!)
the chain lighting proc generates far less aggro than before,
and so renders it quite useless for tanking now...
Also, you can't forget the 20% reduced attack speed debuff. Sure, you can spec 3 points into improved thunderclap for the same effect but having this sword frees up those 3 points to be spent elsewhere. Again, another minor difference but one worth noting. This sword was nerfed but in my mind it is still a great tanking weapon on up through karazhan, gruul, and mag. Once you get into SSC then you're going to find better weapons to use. But, until that time, I'll continue to use my baby that I worked damn hard for.
Kozzofdeath PVE: http://ctprofiles.net/5151251
By the time you get into AQ40/Naxx, Mortal Strike is obsolete, and Fury excels at everything. I have been every concievable spec there is for a warrior, and Fury is the only way to go. Love to all the members of <Ownage Factory> who have helped me over the last two years, I love you guys!
Also, make it conjure food on a 1 minute cooldown as a perk.
"Rend adds about 8 dps if you spec imp rend. Therefore, if you put it on 100 mobs, thats an additional 800 dps. HOW IS 800 extra DPS BAD?"
I know it suits a warrior or a rouge and they get full advantage of it! But its also good at a hunter if you can give up some ranged attack power +agi bonus from other weps!
Edited, Feb 21st 2007 11:32pm by Agyizoli
Edited, Feb 21st 2007 11:33pm by Agyizoli
Tanking weapon mainly, so shut it rogues, you get plenty of sh*t thats much better, you just want it because its orange. As for pallies, well, I haven't seen much pally action before TBC, but as of 70, i've seen pallies tank as well as warriors, so in what i've seen, they're a viable player to recieve one, as long as they're protection specc (or whatever its called for pallies)
This comes from a priest who's seen just about every instance out there (including naxx). Pre-TBC
BEFORE THE PATCH IT GOT NERFED IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST DPS SWORDS THX TO THE PROCC WICH HAD ABOUT 70% TO PROC U MORON....
and read this:
You fail... You've only been in zg so shut it, u dont know a thing about raiding...
60 hunter @ Shattered Hand
60 rogue @ jaedenar
Edited, Jan 30th 2007 9:02pm by Hautsen
That way no one will want it! So when the Bindings do drop it will be all mine!!! :P
Think before you talk.
Lilpinkie - Arathor - Lvl 70 Troll Hunter
Reszin - Arathor - Lvl 70 Troll Mage
Fury Warrior is Rogue with plate :)
Not even close to 50% of this weapons dps comes form the proc. 25% would be pushing it.
Even still, as you gear gets better the DPS contribution from the proc gets less and less (Proc will always do the same damage, while the damage output from getting better gear will increase).
Hunters and Pallies have no claim to this weapon!
60 hunter @ Shattered Hand
60 rogue @ jaedenar
Edited, Dec 31st 2006 8:03pm by hevymetalfan
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70 Night Elf Warrior (Tichondrius)(Hevymetalfan)
http://wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Tichondrius&n=Hevymetalfan (armory link copy paste) hope it works
Edited, Jan 4th 2007 12:26am by Bargadiel
Fury Warrior is Rogue with plate :)
Fury Warrior is Rogue with plate :)
Pabstina - 11 Human Rogue
Dillades - 4 NE Druid
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So the suspect tells me, "I am innocent!"
And I respond: "Glad to hear it, for in this world, innocence is a crime... and it's the guilty ones like me who form the police."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__BvE0oxjb4
But... I think this guy is a GM though.
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So the suspect tells me, "I am innocent!"
And I respond: "Glad to hear it, for in this world, innocence is a crime... and it's the guilty ones like me who form the police."
Weapon = unique
Thrall = not killable in 3 hits... Not in normal WoW, in exception to a GM or glitch perhaps.
Gnomes = can't be paladins.
Isn't the hall in which Thrall in a little more filled with Korkron elites? And shouldn't he aggro a little more when he runs in? And, the portal in the background? It's definitely on a private server, I'd know...
Also, take note that after the mobs swing, their 'emote' goes back to normal standing instead of the ready battle position... Anyone need anymore proof?
Accel - tauren warrior
Draenoria - Orc Shaman
http://wasteland-bg.com - The Bulgarian Fallout Bunker
1 this vid is made on a private server wich apperntly is very easy to make
2 the title it says Thrall(not real) can it be anymore obvious??
3 Thrall died after 3 hits o0 the boss that took 3 raids to kill dies in 3hits?
4 im not sure about this 1 but can pala dualwield?
hunter/shaman are rogue in mail...
are u seeing a patern? i do! rogues own :P
1. Thunderfury is Unique. you can't have two of them.
2. The Thunderfury quest is'nt repeatable.
3. THe gnome on the video uses 2x THunderfury, and wears the paladin gear.
Gnomes can't be paladins.
4. Look at his portrait. it says: "Parry""Miss"Dodge" all the time. He probably is a GM.
Please, think again. -.-
Ok the actual White damage on this thing is 41.84
((44+115)/2)/1.9 = 41.84DPS
Ok now I watched the low and top end damage on just the little nature damage that is "standard" to the weapon. It was hitting as low as 16 and as much as 94 thru the debuff.
((16+94)/2)/1.9 = 28.94DPS
OK now we getting some where! 41.84+ 28.94 = 70.78DPS! THAT IS THE ACTUAL DPS of the weapon with the WHITE damage + the "Standard" nature damage factoring the averaage damage with and without the Debuff :)
THUNDERFURY HAS an Actual <<< 70.78DPS >>>
We aint done yet! Now we gotta add the proc damage. I watched the video again ( I used 135k warrior video, its on the Neff fight :) ) It had as low as 300 damage and as max top end with the debuff (lowers Nature resists by 25) of 450.
((300+450)/2)/1.9 = 197.36DPS
Ok now we gotta factor the Proc rate. Well I have heard as high as 33%, that seems high, so im going to do 33% and 10% so we got an extreme and a minimium.
197.36/3 = 65.78DPS (33%)Proc rate
197.36/10 = 19.73DPS (10%)Proc rate
Ok hold on to your hats.
70.78 + 65.78 = 136.56DPS (33%) Proc Rate
70.78 + 19.73 = 90.51DPS (10%) Proc Rate
OMGZ the LOWEST DPS is <<< 90.51DPS >>> ! That beats TBC swords :P. GG TBC:P
Now that it is confirmed that its a 20% proc rate the DPS of the weapon is 110DPS.
Edited, Jul 25th 2007 1:59pm by Ruelin
Fury Warrior is Rogue with plate :)
Ok so u know the min damage on a swing is: 60
44+16= 60
Top end: 659
115+94+450 = 659
oOMGz the damage range of this "Obsolete" TBC weapon is 60-659!
Yeah your all right. It shouldn't be a legendary and NOBODY should ever strive to get it. Thats why I dont listen to the Peanut Gallery and I figure things out for myself :PPP
As far as the Warrior vs Rogue weapon. We all know it works well for both. So give it a rest. Rogues say they got more instant attack spammage and Slice and Dice. Well Warriors got Cleave/Whirwind, lets see u catch up now Rogues LOL. Oh yeah there is something called Flurry that is a passive Slice and dice so to speak. PASSIVE! Don't have to do a damn thing but crit! SO what is the conclusion. USE THIS FORUM for HELPFUL info! Like I did! And its good for players that are GOOD, not idiots that sit in IF dreaming of even comprending how to use such a tool... cuase yeah thats right... its JUST a tool to a means to and End.... End of story... Thank you Ladies... You will be hearing from me again :)
P.S. With this kind of damage range, no 1hander or 2hander has this high of a range. So this sword should NEVER been in your offhand. 659 and that value can crit... why would you offhand that kind of top end damage range... GG Blizzard for tempting Idiots to offhand thee HIGHEST Top End weapon in game. Yes I realize it does "always" happen. There is a consistancy issue. But putting it in your offhand for a +10% less hit and 50% decrese damage is a HORRIBLE idea. To me its like The Untamed Blade. When that 300str procs its the Hardest hitting weapon for 8secs at a time... Do the math... I did... Don't offhand a godly weapon.
Edited, Dec 28th 2006 4:00am by Ruelin
Fury Warrior is Rogue with plate :)
oh yeah and one more thing.. about what you said about noobs that dont have gear.. with the new patch.. there are now a scary amount of noobs with gear
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Yes. It is awesome. But is it worth it...?
It took me 8 months, 2 guilds, and 10k gold. But the price you pay doesnt end there, and Im not talking about the 4.5g repair bills on it alone either.
For every 1 compliment you get, you get 3 counts of harrassment, and there are ALOT of compliments. You can't walk anywhere with it equipped without starting
a conversation, or more likely an argument exactly like the ones here. But onto the damage.
In 5 man dungeons, solo, and pvp, you will own. It will be as good as you expect. In the mainhand I get around 9 procs per minute over long term and I slice and dice fairly frequently. In PVP it's total confusion with lightning and tornadoes hitting all thier d00dz. However, in raids, I don't notice NEARLY (repeat NEARLY) the dps boost I had expected. Perhaps an extra 20 dps on a rough guess. But while I was thinking about how expensive a moderate dps boost in a raid that was, I realized something.
TF's main benefit is not damage. TF's benefit is the proc. Not the 300 (I've got a 495 max) damage. It's the -25% attack speed. On a raid boss, that's 25% less physical damage. So, obviously, it does benefit the tank, but also the tanks healers, which leaves more mana for them to heal everyone else. It doesn't matter who has the sword in the raid as far as SOMEONE has it.
The argument about causing way too much aggro gain is like most of the arguments about Thunderfury. They're made by people who haven't used one. I've noticed very little increase in nasty aggro situations and certainly nothing uncontrollable.
In regards to the Off Hand/Main Hand argument. Anything short of a Grand Marshal's sword, Main hand it. Period. Don't care about your math, Ive tested it long term.
So, in conclusion: Guilds should open up to the idea of a rogue having it. I'd say it's benefitted my guild just as much as if the tank had gotten it and Im sure they'd agree.
If I could go back and had the choice to bid on that first binding again, would I? No. I would pass on it. The effort put in is not worth the end result, in my opinion.
I will never get tired of the thundering sound it makes when it procs. ^_^
In any event, don't care about your opinion on Thunderfury not being worth a cent post 2.0. Obviously, you haven't had any first hand knowledge using the weapon yourself. I am glad that in the long run, it makes tanking bosses that much easier and going through instances that much quicker. I am also relieved that, by your own admission, that Thunderfury is as good as the gear you had mentioned, considering I do not have those items as of yet, suggesting that most likely I do just as well in those areas you had mentioned.
Anyway, grats to all in getting the Thunderfury. In my opinion, it will contimue to be a viable weapon come 2.0.
It's a good conversation piece, but don't try to keep using it, because (though I don't think 2.0 made it obsolete) it will be far from the best item available, when BC launches.
Fury Warrior is Rogue with plate :)
t2.5 conqueror full and skilled thunderclap > thunderfury
and widow´s remorse is by far better that tf, except for the slow, which can be replaced by a warri with tc
A nexus crystal?
Edited, Oct 10th 2007 6:29pm by Earogon
does this answer your question nebsus?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=125214796677821663&q=thunderfury+ninja
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