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| Name | Count | Drop Rate | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Nexus Crystal | 1-2 | 100% |
| Name | Components | Skill |
|---|---|---|
| Truefaith Vestments | 12x Bolt of Runecloth, 10x Mooncloth, 4x Righteous Orb, 4x Golden Pearl, 10x Ghost Dye, 2x Rune Thread Cost of components: 330 77 40![]() | Tailoring (300) |
Edited, Aug 30th 2006 at 11:00am EDT by Myrethea
Rakthur - EVE Online
Edited, Mon Oct 24 17:03:48 2005
Anyway, I just wanted to add one aspect in all that comparing back and forth you discussed about the +healing. What makes +healing so good in say healing rotations is that Truefaith have a better health/second value than the other robes. Even though I might have less mana the added health healed per second makes the tank have a greater chance of staying alive. Then if you may switch groups more often is irrelevant as you most likely regain full mana before it is your turn anyway.
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=13858
I made these just to try out different equip (have been hunting +healing equip) and I feel that they are NOT worth it. The loss of mana is to high compared to the added healing bonus.
A Flash Heal gains about +31 to the heal effect from this robe. The average on Flash Heal (for me with Holy talents bonus) is 991,65. To gain one Flash Heal worth of healing from the bonus you need to cast it 32 times, which is 12155 mana.
"1 mana each 5 sec" is about 3-6 int points in MC.
Example fight with Lucifron (an easy MC boss):
==============================================
Combat Time: 402.5 sec
Mana used: 16519
Mana regenerated: 10271
1 INT gave you 16.5 mana
1 SPI gave you 30.54 mana
+1 mana/5sec gave you 80.51 mana
==============================================
And one more thing.
My troll priest have +10% to flash heal from holy talents and +12-13% to flash heal from my equipment (depends on to which weapon I have switched in combat using a hotkey). So it's +22-23% flash heal total.
Edited, Mon Jun 27 01:46:06 2005
- Robes of the Exalted
- Mindsurge Robe
- Vestments of Atalái Prophet
- Robes of the Roxal Crown.
This piece ist much more expensive and not better than these Blues.
"+12-13% to flash heal from my equipment"
Sorry, but you cannot add other equipment into the equation. I to have other stuff that adds to +healing, like the Hide of the Wild, which manages to add +healing effect _and_ keep +int bonus and +sta.
Don't forget that this robe costs much in mats to create, and that it is epic (purple). It should be much better than blue items at the same lvl, but it aint.
Btw, if you gonna go the +mana / 5 sec item, I think the Mindsurge Robe is better . You lose a few % on the heal effect, but it adds +10 mana/ 5 sec and +13 int.
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=18532
Edited, Mon Jun 27 02:59:24 2005
Spirit vs Mana each 5 seconds assuming you healing 1/3 of time and regening 2/3 of time and have 5 in Meditation:
1 mana each 5 sec:
3/5 = 0.6 mana per tick
Spirit:
1 spi (0.25 at full regen, 15% of 0.25 in combat)
(0.25) * (2/3) + (0.25 * 0.15) * (1/3) = 0.18 mana per tick
Truefaith Vestments has 6 mana each 5 seconds.
Devout Robe has 15 spirit.
As you see, TV is better in regening.
> Sorry, but you cannot add other equipment into the equation. I to have other stuff that adds to +healing, like the Hide of the Wild, which manages to add +healing effect _and_ keep +int bonus and +sta.
Yes, I know. It's full bonus from whole equip. But it says about that +healing is very important, even more important than your talents. And this robe gives you very solid bonus here.
(And yes, I wear Hide of the Wild also)
> Don't forget that this robe costs much in mats to create, and that it is epic (purple).
We found the receipe in a 5men Balnazar run. Yes, mats are expensive (about 400g). But for example, Hide of the Wild also isn't cheap. And don't forget about prestige factor.
> It should be much better than blue items at the same lvl, but it aint.
It is better.
> Btw, if you gonna go the +mana / 5 sec item, I think the Mindsurge Robe is better . You lose a few % on the heal effect, but it adds +10 mana/ 5 sec and +13 int.
You right Mindsurge is a very good robe. I wore it before I found the receipe. But total bonus of Truefaith Vestments is better than Mindsurge Robe. (sorry, don't have enough time for precise calculation)
Edited, Mon Jun 27 05:51:49 2005
I was more thinking of shifts where you sit and regen at full spi-rate. Devout Robe = 1,875 mana/sec, TFV = 1,2 mana/sec. And if you are that good you got the Devout Robe, you probably have 6 or 7 of the other pieces. 7 parts= +20 spi, 8 part = +55 healing.
>> We found the receipe in a 5men Balnazar run.
I got the pattern in a raid, else I wouldn't have done it. The droprate on the pattern is much higher than indicated, I think it depends on something, like any tailor 300 present at kill or so. I have seen 2 drops, and it at AH twice, and that is just in 3 weeks. The Righeous Orb's are the worst pain to get as everybody wants them for the Crusader Enchant. At our AH they sell for 40-50g each.
>>It is better.
Debatable. If its better, its by a tiny margin.
And it should have a unique look, not a copy of Runecloth Robe. Then I would wear it for looks, and put on something else when entering the instance. ;)
Even regen only mode:
Devout robe has 15 spirit. 1 spi = 0.25 each 3 seconds.
15 * 0.25 / 3 = 1.25 mana/sec
Truefaith Vestments:
6 / 5 = 1.2 mana/sec
Almost no difference.
Summary:
With this robe you can heal longer and your tank is safer. Full regen is almost the same as with devout robe.
By the way, we don't talk about full devout - you can get other blue equip that will be better than full devout bonus.
Partially you can see it in my profile:
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?75653
So in real fight with healing rotation:
1 mana each 5 seconds:
2/5 = 0.4 mana per tick
Spirit:
1 spi (0.25 at full regen, 15% of 0.25 in combat)
(0.25) * (2/3) + (0.25 * 0.15) * (1/3) = 0.18 mana per tick
TV: 0.4 * 6(mana each 5 seconds) = 2.4
Devout robe: 0.18 * 15(spirit) = 2.7
Devout is slighty better in regening with healing rotation. But with TV you heal better.
sec."
Does that mean it adds 2 seconds?
30 - (-2) = 32
"Reduces the cooldown of your Fade ability by 2.0
sec."
Comparison:
Bonus to healing: Max effect is only given to the most powerful spell (Greater Heal). The Mooncloth robe gives you 375 more mana from the Int-bonus, which is one Flash Heal or approx 1000 health (Holy spec). In one combat you have to cast GH4 14 times to gain the same amount of health. More mana is better IMO.
Mana gain: The bonus of course is that it always give 6 mana every 5 secs, even when casting. Mooncloth Robe +12 Spirit gives you 7,5 every 5 secs (3/tick actually) when not affected by the 5-sec rule. My guess is that +12 Spi is somewhat lower bonus, but not that much.
Sta bonus: +20 more health on the TFV, not that much to brag about.
Fade bonus: Only unique thing on TFV. Not that those 2 sec is going to help you if you got aggro in the end-game instances anyway.
My opinion: Not at all worth the money to create, and should be a Blue item.
Try to use SpiritFactor there: http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=1217
Regen means much more when you heal during boss fights.
My rating:
1. Truefaith Vestments.
2. Mindsurge robe.
3. Devout robe.
4. Mooncloth robe.
+Healing is a very good bonus:
1. it saves your mana (flash heal receives 40% from +healing and greater heal and renew receive 100%)
Try to calculate yourself: how many flash heals you do until you oom and how much bonus is +healing.
2. +Healing on healers means better probability of survival of whole raid.
Edited, Tue Jun 14 22:42:55 2005
+healing bonuses apply fully to renew and other than in MC that spell is probably my most used spell. If you're going for items that add +healing you're going to want more than this robe (currently without even trying I easily have +200healing).
6mana/5secs > 12 spirit easily. Simply because alot of time is spent casting when this regen will continue but spirit only works at 15% (assuming you use meditation). Outside of the 5sec rule 12 spirit > 6mana/5secs. But it's only by 3mana over a 10sec span, or 36 mana over a 2min period.
The fade cooldown reduction I really don't notice that much (I've been disc/holy the entire time I've had it so far). But I think it will make a big difference when I spec back to shadow, as most times I would draw aggro after fading I would only have 1,2,3, or 4 secs left to cooldown.
And the most important thing (to me anyways)... Is that it isn't a mooncloth or devout robe, with so many 56 - 60 priests running around it is a little bit nice (call me vain if you like) to be able to differentiate yourself from them somehow. And I really, really hate the look of both those robes.
But if you have this it's still a better option to go get yourself a mooncloth, devout, magisters, or dreadmist robe for solo'ing. But I'll always wear this in a group over any robe I can get so far.
According to Blizzard the full value is only applied to the most powerful spell. So with Renew you are getting a bonus, but its a much much smaller one. And sure, I do use renew, but when the tank is doing his work he takes a lot of damage that renew can't keep up with. If there is lots of AoE effect, the whole party gets hurt. I like more mana over bonus to heal, unless its both as per the Hide of the Wild.
The mana-regen is better, but not by that much.
As for the looks, sure it is a big bonus, and its a bit boring with every priest running around in Devout set. But speaking of Devout, you know that the last two bonuses are, +20 Spirit and then "Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 55". If you got the other parts, you lose +55 on heal going with this instead of the Devout Robe.
No, I still fully belive this "epic" to be under-powered.
Renew gets full bonus over _full_ time.
> but when the tank is doing his work he takes a lot of damage that renew can't keep up with
Agree
> But speaking of Devout, you know that the last two bonuses are, +20 Spirit and then "Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 55". If you got the other parts, you lose +55 on heal going with this instead of the Devout Robe
There are some good blue easy to find items that overbonus devout set easily.
Padre's Trousers is a good complement I think.
http://wow.allakhazam.com/item.html?witem=18386
Edited, Sun Jun 19 13:54:47 2005
Whipvine Cord (only 9int but another 6mana/5secs)
Emerald something ring
Ring from the pally quest chain in Epl
Hide of the Wild
and a +healing enchant
(there is an offhand that gives +37 to healing if you want to go that far)
That'll give you a nice bonus to +healing when combined with Truefaith Vestements.
For the rest of your slots just load up on Int/spi items and you're good to go.
Requires:
12x Bolt of Runecloth
10x Mooncloth
4x Righteous Orb
4x Golden Pearl
10x Ghost Dye
2x Rune Thread
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